Recycled Roles Mafia DP5

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  • Lunatic
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    Dead players

    Speedrace- Hayd- Beloved Princess (Town, Lynched DP1)

    Discipulus_Didicit- Geographia- 1x Executioner (Town, Killed NP2)

    Greyparrot- Buddamoose- 1x Janitor (Mafia, lynched DP3)

    iLikePie5- Nymphomaniac- 2x Motivator (Town, Killed NP3)

    WaterPhoenix (Town, Lynched DP4) You are PartamRuhem’s role from Lickdafoot’s Final Fantasy Mafia. Your role: “Partam- Bugenhagen- You are an eccentric old man who uses technology & nature to understand the happenings of Planet Gaea. You are equipped with the Pre-Emptive materia. This gives the ability to watch any player of your choosing to see who targets them. You win with the town.”

    Bullish- (Town, Killed NP4) You are SolonKR’s role from Danielle’s Orange is the New Black mafia. Your role: “SolonKr- You are Cindy "Black Cindy" Hayes, a town Vanilla. You don't have any particular skills or abilities, but you're hilarious. You win with the town.”


    Living Players

    1. Ragnar (replaced SirAnonymous)
    2. Virtuoso (replaced Supadudz)
    3. oromagi
    4. drafterman
    5. Zaradi (replaced Singularity)

    With 5 player, it takes 3 votes to lynch. DP ends in 72 hours, or on 2/4/20 at 6pm CST
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    --> @David @drafterman @oromagi @Ragnar @Zaradi
    Dp5 time!
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    --> @Zaradi
    Results?
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    Great meme

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    I was roleblocked.
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    Ahh shit this isn't reddit

    my b
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    VTL Zaradi
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    Any particular reason?
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    Scum's between Oro, Virt and Ragnar. I'm town and drafter's town.

    Atm I'm inclined to believe Ragnar is the most likely of the three to be town.
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    --> @David
    Why did you fake claim cop?
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    I feel like Mafia is trying to do some galaxy brain nonsense here.
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    --> @drafterman
    Also who did you recruit?
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    --> @drafterman
    What did you think of 47?


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    And drafter is giving me crap in the PM for not wanting to lynch GP quick last DP which is fairly scummy, I'd say.
    It feels like a set up for the next lynch target. 
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    I recruited Ragnar. It went through but he has not showed up in the group chat.
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    --> @Zaradi
    I think oro has a habit of saying stuff is scummy based on nothing. He acknowledges he judges scum by poor reasoning but continues to do it for... reasons. So I don't put stock in what he says. I don't think oro has ever led a lynch, ever, so I'm not really too worried.

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    Why did you fake claim cop?
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    I didn't and wasn't claiming. I was leaving cop cover. It's a strategy we use on MafiaUniverse all the time and so that's how I got used to playing. 

    This is a good article explaining the tactic:

  • A seer has to "drop peeks." This means that they have to find a way to post their results in the thread for the Town to see.
  • The Town needs to provide "seer cover" [also known as "hypo cop'ing"]. This means that the rest of the Town should be providing fake peeks in order to confuse the scum team and hide the real seer results until it is safe for the real seer to claim or the real seer is killed.
  • The scum has to "seer hunt." In basic games, the scum team does not have a lot of time to find the seer. In a typical standard game if the scum team doesn't find the seer by day 3 and the seer has 3 live peeks or 2 live peeks and a scum peek the game is mechanically locked and the Town always wins.
  • That's basically the goal. 
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    This 'cop covering' seems super counter-intuitive lol.
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    --> @David
    Yes, I've heard this tactic.

    But...

    The trick with providing cover is in figuring out accurate fake peeks...
    You didn't do that because you weren't paying attention.

    Once you have committed to a fake peek, you have to stick with that peek
    You didn't do that either, you basically dropped the charade once called out on it.

    The hardest time to maintain cover is when someone claims to be the real seer. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and evaluate the authenticity of that claim
    You didn't do that, either. Basically all you did was just drop the fake claim, using a tactic that I don't think anyone ever uses here.

    “disguise” your peek as a read.
    You didn't do that.

    This is just.... sigh
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    --> @Zaradi
    --> @drafterman
    What did you think of 47?


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    And drafter is giving me crap in the PM for not wanting to lynch GP quick last DP which is fairly scummy, I'd say.
    It feels like a set up for the next lynch target. 

    except that I know drafter has MASONED me and I know there's are ROLEBLOCKER so it doesn't make sense
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    Any particular reason?

    Well now I have little reason to doubt WP's claim that you visited me DP1 which contradicts your claim.
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    The available scenarios are... not really good.

    1.  Zaradi is scum. That means there is a miller with no cop. Tantamount to bastard game.
    2. Oro is scum. Means maf waived their N1 kill, also waived the Janitor for their N2 kill.
    3. Ragnar is scum. But that means SirAnon got a role PM, then looked up old DDO games and grabbed a miller claim in about 30 minutes

    The problem with #2 and #3 (and Virt being scum) is that it doesn't account for water's results, and it means that, instead of RBing the doc and killing the cop, they RBed the cop and let the doc potentially stop the NK again.
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    Shit, I misremembered water's NP1 results:


    VTL Zaradi
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    Official Vote Count

    Zaradi- 2/3 - Oromagi, drafterman
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    VTL zaradi
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