Are you better than a Cow?

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    What constitutes better is a qualified opinion not a quantifiable measurable fact.

    Are you asking if I am of the opinion that I am better than a cow? In what regard exactly? 

    I am better than a cow at tool use and public speaking but worse than a cow at excreting milk. 

    Perhapsif you reformulate your question to be more precise I could give a more precise answer.
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    I'm better at arithmetic and spelling.
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    Yes spelling

    But I am a God at Math
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    The video itself does not do a good job and I used it as more of a joke/introductory video

    What has Atheism done for Society? it is my belief that a society can only thrive with good beliefs under religion

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    Atheism is not an organization. It is only a state of belief. I think perhaps what you meant to say is what have atheists done for society and the answer is the same as if you ask what christians (as opposed to christianity) have done for society. It depends on the individual. 

    As for your claims you will need to rigorously define thrive and good in the context you are using them or this conversation may not be particularly fruitful.
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    atheistic states include USSR,CHina, Cuba, Vietnam, and Cambodia

    Not great countries
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    This logical fallacy is known as confirming the consequent. It involves pointing out something "bad" and attempts to connect it to your interlocutor or their argument.
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    I think you can come to some conclusions on country comparisons

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    Well since you seem so eager to confirm the consequent why don't we add Spain in the 1600s to our list of countries to compare?

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    Also 
    "America is by no means a christian nation."
    -Thomas Jefferson 

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    But America is not atheistsic and the majority are relgious


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    America is a land of freedom of religion including the freedom not to have one. Church and state are separate, in theory. This in no way frees you from comparing the United states with Spain in the 1600s unless you would like to go ahead and admit that comparing countries in the way you have suggested is confirming the consequent.
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    religous society>atheist society
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    You have moved on from confirming the consequent to bald assertions. Congratulations. Could you do an argument from popularity next?

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    what is with all these debate language?

    religious morlas are needed in a society

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    what is with all these debate language?
    This is a debate website. What better place for debate language?
    religious morlas are needed in a society
    Humane morals are needed in a society. Religion does not always provide humane morals. 


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    Hey Doc,

    By humane morals, SecMer means his own personal morals.

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    A superb point made by the video, and I agree entirely with the presenter, peace be upon him. In fact, it is my belief that the animals of the field, the fish of the sea, the fowl of the air, even the creepers on ground, are living the full measure of their creation in utter obedience, while we, man, can only hope to achieve that status someday. They inherit, by their very existence, the kingdom of God. It is we who are tasked with trying, and many will, and have failed. To whom much is given, much is expected.
    "What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty! In form and moving how express and admirable! In action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the world. The paragon of animals. And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me." [Shakespeare, Hamlet, II, ii] 
    We have been given the world to tend. How are we doing?

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    I will add, coincidentally, that the Qur'an begins with the book, The Cow, and the first verse declares, "This book is not to be doubted." I suppose there's a purpose in one popular cow remarking, "Eat mor chikin"
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    yeah I fiured