DART & Covid-19

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With Covid-19 raging on, we want to do our best to promote social distancing and limiting interaction with people

I'd like to do something like site mafia, or a google hangout/discord call, but I need community input on what you want. I can organize and have the time to do so. Comment if you have ideas for what we can do
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stay safe everyone
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Smacks of an authoritarian state. No thanks. Besides, just as with STDs, the answer is not digital contraceptives; it is abstinence. Those who do their part in social distancing, including just staying home, have a high percentage  to 100% chance of avoiding infection, thus curtailing spread of the virus. Those who don't... well, you have the percentage of protection of physical contraceptives, and none are 100% effective; not even vasectomy and tube-ties. look it up.
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@fauxlaw
I agree, but limiting interactions will slow spread overall and I wan't to get back to my personal life of sports, hanging out, etc.
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@fauxlaw
Actually almost all good quality contraceptives are 100% effective if you properly use them exactly as prescribed.

The reason they are not always effective is, in the case of pills, people don't properly adhere to the dosage and take other drugs and things that they don't inform the doctor about. 

In the case of condoms, don't be arrogant. If you get a size that's too big for you, of course spillage can occur somehow. Also if you have a big 'stick', don't be stupid and try to save money by buying the ordinary size. Be honest, buy the right size and you will be protected. Tears and such occur due to people going far too rough in a size too small and/or material too cheap that really shouldn't even be sold as a valid condom.

I would like you to show me how on Earth vasectomies and tube-tying are not 100% effective.
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>>RationalMadman

Condom use:  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2940206/.  Even when used correctly, as you specify, condoms have a 3% failure rate. If they are used repeatedly [more than once without discard], it's failure rate is 20%. 

Tubal ligation [tie]: while the surgery of ligation appears to be permanent, https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/tubal-ligation and it can be reversed, but with only 50 to 80% effectivity of pregnancy after reopening the tubes. However, a poor job of initial ligation results in 0.037%of ligated females become pregnant. 

Vasectomy: The failure rate of vasectomies is 0.15%. http://www.malehealthcenter.com/c_vasectomy.html

Yes these are all small failure rates, but they still fail. Meanwhile, 100% abstinence is 100% successful in avoiding pegnancy. IOW: keep it ziped.
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So, uh... this might be a bit off topic (since someone decided the topic is contraceptives now) but I would be down for a Hangouts meeting.
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100% abstinence is 100% successful in avoiding pegnancy.
Restraining yourself can only go far. What if you got raped?

RM saying 100% doesn't mean you use something unimaginable as in something being risk-free.


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So, blow the whole idea off? How does anyone control what someone else does to them? You're being absurd, dreaming up scenarios that affect a small percentage of us. 
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I'd be down 
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I note that to the degree you interact with other human beings that, themselves, interact with the rest of society, you run the risk of contracting the Chinese virus.  

Everyone will eventually get this.  Not a question of if, but when.  
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So, blow the whole idea off?
Not implied if you were paying attention. Remember I targeted the risk-free part not your idea as a whole. Please do actually attack the point instead of some strawman you made.
How does anyone control what someone else does to them?
If you don't factor that in that is on you but I did. How could you possibly leave out outside intervention? You should also know something cannot be risk-free and I gave one example on why that is the case but that flew right over your head and I'm guessing this will too. 

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@fauxlaw
the answer is not digital contraceptives; it is abstinence. Those who do their part in social distancing, including just staying home, have a high percentage  to 100% chance of avoiding infection, thus curtailing spread of the virus.

I would argue that the chances of Supas idea spreading the coronavirus is actually zero percent, not just a low chance. You seem to disagree. Would you agree to a debate on the topic?
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@TheRealNihilist
 How could you possibly leave out outside intervention? 
By not ignoring who is responsible for root cause of the incident of pregnancy. In either case, male or female, when, not if, the aggressor has failed to practice abstention, the aggressor is the root cause of pregnancy, not the victim of the aggression. The aggressor is always the one who has failed to respect the agency, the value, and the chaste innocence of the victim. No implication; that flew right over your head.
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Supas? What do Indonesian trees have to do with it?
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Idk if it is a joke but I am SupaDudz

Supa is what people abbreviate it
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Ahhh, dawns the light! I'm missing the intended possessive apostrophe. Thanks for the enlightenment. Also, as an aside, thanks for the mention - I've just earned my fist gold medal!
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Congratulations lol! I get the joke now lol
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@fauxlaw
I'm usually very good when it comes to commas so I usually don't have a problem with it.
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@Vader
Not that it means a hill of beans, but I'll take my cheap thrills where I can get them. I do not have your youth [except in my head, where it's mostly useless!] so thrills must come from ordinary places. No, I didn't mean that. That's still workin' just great!
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I'd be down

May 15th? far enough out to advertise the idea and possibly adjust for ppls schedules but still relatively soon and honestly the earliest I would be able to show up.
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Congrats on gold metal
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I may be in school by May 15th. And if this kinda goes away May 15th it'll be my friend since childhood's birthday, so I would be unavailable that day
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If I am still in e-Learning/quarantined, I'd be down
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Fair enough. That's what my parents say. Enjoy the medal lol
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Skip the birthday, friends are for nerds.