Blue state Democrats are ruining Red states....

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This article basically goes through how Democrats from Blue states leave them because of their stagnant growth to find jobs in Red states, where housing is actually affordable and most of their income isn't going towards taxes.

But here is the kicker: they continue to vote for the very policies that made their home state a stagnant, homeless-ridden sh*thole. 

So, why are all of these leeches coming to Red states to take jobs and then destroy the growth that the good policies created?

Not only immigration, but also emigration are creating an electoral nightmare for Republicans. While we are gaining Pennsylvania and Michigan from emigration, we are losing Georgia, Florida, and eventually Texas. Not a good trade in the very least!
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So are "we" talking United States of America or Ununited States of America.  

Do you see benefit in a One Party authoritarian system, similar to Russia or China?
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No, I don’t think that a one party state is great.

While we are all one country, you have people with bad ideas in some states going into states that have historically had good policies. They then overpower the previous majority of that state and run it into the ground. That is problematic
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You think others have bad ideas and others think that you have bad ideas....Tolerance of this system is what gives you you're freedom to openly comment and criticise.

As you admit....You wouldn't appreciate the alternative.

Who or what do you think validates your ideas?

A fair election will decide........Though to an outsider,  the U.S. electoral system seems far from straightforward.
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Bullshit article by biased corrupt agenda journalists

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Tolerance?  hmm the leftist are far from tolerant.  I'm not sure why someone opposed to more government control and taxes should be tolerant of that.
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The left isn't tolerant of the right and the right isn't tolerant of the left.....I would suggest that most people are tolerant, or you would have had another civil war by now.

I think that it's just a case of people enjoy opposing something......I'm this and you're that.....It's what we learn in the playground and it stays with us the rest of our lives.

After all, adults are no more than big kids.
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I can see that, I guess my focus was on the violence which seems pretty one sided currenly.
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The National elections is just part of the issue, and being one country, you can’t really do much about the electoral ramifications.
 

However, they are also voting this way in state elections, and that damages the state that they chose to move to. They are leaving a state and then voting for the same policies that made them leave.

That is similar to an immigrant leaving Soviet Russia and then voting for the US communist party.
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That is similar to an immigrant leaving Soviet Russia and then voting for the US communist party.

Socialism WORKS...we just haven't found the right state to do it in.

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You know what they say: 50th times a charm 
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Socialism would work, but the logistics of re-educating an entire nation do negate socialism's chances somewhat....Though I think that getting everyone to agree in the first place would be even harder.....As people enjoy disagreeing.

And emigrants leave.....And communist utopias always fail for the above reasons.

In the end it boils down to a choice between autocracy and democracy....So be grateful that you can openly disagree with the other side.
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its what happened to virginia
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Let in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, and a few years later, Northam is violating your 2nd Amendment rights.
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yep..
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Openly disagree with the other side? 
31% of liberals, 30% of moderates and 34% of conservatives are worried their political views could get them fired or harm their career trajectory. 
50% of strong liberals support firing Trump donors, 36% of strong conservatives support firing Biden donors
Strong liberals stand out, however, as the only political group who feel they can express themselves.


We don't live in a free society anymore. We can't openly disagree with the other side. Disagree with what the liberal state wants you to think, and you can lose your career.
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I can see that, I guess my focus was on the violence which seems pretty one sided currenly.

Right-wing tolerance is the only reason the violence is almost entirely one-sided. They better not push their luck, like that idiot down in Texas did.
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Let in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, and a few years later, Northam is violating your 2nd Amendment rights.
coonman is a p.o.s. they better vote out that dumbass otherwise I'll have to move.

lots more violence from the "progressives" aka tolerant leftist.  they couldn't tolerate statues that have been up for decades so they had to tear them down rather than going through a legal and orderly process, so tolerant, I mean wth is there such a hurry to tear them down that they couldn't do it legally?
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Virginia is looking like a lost cause. Was such a great place less than a decade ago. Maybe it pissed off gun owners enough to go out and vote.

aka tolerant leftist. they couldn't tolerate statues
I swear, Republicans will be getting hanged and all they will have to say is “heh, so much for the tolerant left”
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Precisely what is happening to Texas. 
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Yes, mass immigration from third world countries mixed with people fleeing California and bringing their politics with them is dragging down one of the historically most conservative states.

It really shows how the Democrat party works: when you can't convince a population, replace them.
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You only need to quietly disagree at the ballot box to make a difference......Though I cannot vouch for the integrity of the U.S. electoral system.

And the nature of ordered society and government means that it is never truly free.

Though the best way to free yourself from such things is to ignore them.
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the way to start a Marxist transformation in the USA is to import revolutionaries from failed nations.