Bill gates and depopulating with vaccine's

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    • Bill gates want to depopulate the planet.Bill gate's does so by saying under the pretext if we do a really good job with the vaccine's the population will decrease. Because when people are healthier they choose to have fewer children.

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    Bill gates want to depopulate the planet.
    Since the planet is overpopulated, advocacy for smaller populations is just common sense.

    Bill gate's does so by saying under the pretext if we do a really good job with the vaccine's the population will decrease.
    PRETEXT is "a reason given in justification of a course of action that is not the real reason."  I see no reason for you to think Gates is not sincere.
    Because when people are healthier they choose to have fewer children.
    This is true.  As your own source explains:

    "When more children live past the age of 5, and when mothers can decide if and when to have children, population sizes don’t go up. They go down. Parents have fewer children when they’re confident those children will survive into adulthood. Big families are in some ways an insurance policy against the tragic likelihood of losing a son or a daughter.

    We see this pattern throughout history. All over the world, when death rates among children go down, so do birth rates. It happened in France in the late 1700s. It happened in Germany in the late 1800s. Argentina in the 1910s, Brazil in the 1960s, Bangladesh in the 1980s.

    When more children live, you get one generation that’s relatively big. Then, when families decide to have fewer children, the next generation is much smaller. Eventually, a country ends up with relatively more people in the labor force producing economically—and relatively fewer dependents (very old or very young people). That’s a recipe for rapid economic development, especially if countries take advantage of it by investing in health and education."

    Gates is accurately interpreting well established trends in birth data.  Good cheap healthcare is expensive up  front but consistently pays for itself in the long run.  In a society where good healthcare can't be counted on, women can't be certain how many babies will be required to sustain the family going forward and such populations generally overpopulate.  In a society where the  right family size is easy to calculate, new births drop  rapidly and significant downsizing in population is quite realistic in the space of two generations.

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    Bill gates want to depopulate the planet.
    He didn't say that in the video. In fact, he came to a rather different conclusion.
    Bill gate's does so by saying under the pretext if we do a really good job with the vaccine's the population will decrease. 
    Not decrease. Level off. He's saying that saving lives with better medicine doesn't lead to overpopulation because the population growth naturally levels off.
    Because when people are healthier they choose to have fewer children.
    Yep. There's no conspiracy here.
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    they chose to have less children because more children survive and get educated for skilled work

    in Bangladesh in 1960-women had an average of 7 children-2 died before age 5 and only 1 or 2 got educated for skilled work, improving health and education leads to a decrease in fertility,this is a scientific observation found everywhere

    the human population will level out, which is a good thing mostly

    i wouldnt call this "depopulating"

    whats not good is promoting a rejection of family(this is seen in the west) which i doubt these developing societies are doing. They are increasing health and education so more children survive and get educated, there isnt a need for more kids
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    To quote a debate of mine:

    According to Forbes
    “demographers estimate the world population will decrease in the long run, after peaking around the year 2070. It is now well-documented that as countries grow richer, and people escape poverty, they opt for smaller families — a phenomenon called the fertility transition.”
    Whether this is a good or bad depends on who you ask. For a lot of economies (Russia, Japan, etc.) the results are clear. But for places like China and India, it may very well result in cleaner, safer, happier places to live over time.
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    If vaccines were good they would increase the population not decrease it.


    Bill said in every country the more they vaccinate the more the population decrease. Children, not surviving childhood only happen in a handful of countries. What of the other country's that are depopulated from vaccine's.
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    But...The absense of vaccines would depopulate quicker. Just saying. Not really moral, but exists.
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    If vaccines were good they would increase the population not decrease it.


    Bill said in every country the more they vaccinate the more the population decrease. Children, not surviving childhood only happen in a handful of countries. What of the other country's that are depopulated from vaccine's.
    Not so. The reason populations level off is because people are choosing to have fewer children, not because of any harm from vaccines. Vaccines make people healthier by preventing many of the diseases that have plagued mankind for millennia. As the video explained, healthier populations choose to have fewer children. It has nothing to do with vaccines not being good.
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    The reason populations level off is because people are choosing to have fewer children, not because of any harm from vaccines. Vaccines make people healthier by preventing many of the diseases that have plagued mankind for millennia. As the video explained, healthier populations choose to have fewer children. It has nothing to do with vaccines not being good.
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    Name one healthy person who has chosen to have less kids because they are healthy.
    That does not explain that mass decrease in population in place's like america. Biill gates said that the population decrease in every country he vaccinated. Secondly, I do not know how you guys can beleive such a lie.This is like we are not doing cannabilism.we only make our taste receptors out of aborted babies kind of logic. India is holding bill gate's accountable. They seem pretty pissed about there depopulating.


    A recent report published by Health Impact News has reported that the Gates Foundation has found itself facing a pending lawsuit, due to an investigation that is being carried out by the Supreme Courts of India.



    Young Tribal Girls Tested With HPV Vaccines
    The Economic Times India published their report August 2014. They stated that in 2009, tests had been carried out on 16,000 tribal school children in Andhra Pradesh, India, using the human papiloma virus (HPV) vaccine, Gardasil.
    According to the report written by KP Narayana Kumar, within a month of receiving the vaccine, many of the children fell ill and by 2010, five of them had died

    This is why the population decrease.Zero evidence has been shown that healthy people have fewer children.
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    Freemasons give millions of dollars to charity. Why do you think they do that. When i question freemasonry. One of the first things i get yelled back at is they give so much to charity


    Jeffery epstien has donated  million dollars to charity


    But the most glaring exaggeration appeared on Wikipedia. A user name apparently connected to Mr. Epstein edited the page for the foundation and put its annual outlay at $200 million a year — just under the amount the Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg contributed to charity in 2018.
    Why do you think ellen donates millions of dollars
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    Name one healthy person who has chosen to have less kids because they are healthy.
    I don't need to name any specific person. The declining birth rate that occurs as countries develop is sufficient proof.
    That does not explain that mass decrease in population in place's like america.
    It explains exactly that. America's birthrate is decreasing.
    Biill gates said that the population decrease in every country he vaccinated.
    No. He was pointing to historical trends of a declining birthrate across multiple countries as they developed. Bill Gates had very little involvement in that.
    Secondly, I do not know how you guys can beleive such a lie.
    We believe it because it is strongly supported by declining birth rates that occur as countries develop. Since birth rates are entirely dependent on the choices of the people having kids, except in China, it is impossible for vaccines to be the cause.
    This is like we are not doing cannabilism.we only make our taste receptors out of aborted babies kind of logic. 
    Agreed on the cannibalism part. Just as there is no evidence that vaccines are causing population decrease, there is also no evidence of widespread cannibalism. As for the part about aborted babies, I'm afraid that I can't decipher what you're trying to say.



    Young Tribal Girls Tested With HPV Vaccines
    The Economic Times India published their report August 2014. They stated that in 2009, tests had been carried out on 16,000 tribal school children in Andhra Pradesh, India, using the human papiloma virus (HPV) vaccine, Gardasil.
    According to the report written by KP Narayana Kumar, within a month of receiving the vaccine, many of the children fell ill and by 2010, five of them had died
    Vactruth is an extremely unreliable source.
    Why do you think that sites like these are correct and the entire rest of the world, including the entire scientific community, is wrong?
    Zero eviddence has been shown that healthy people have less children.
    The evidence was in the video you linked in the OP.
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    Freemasons give millions of dollars to charity. Why do you think they do that. When i question freemasonry. One of the first things i get yelled back at is they give so much to charity


    Jeffery epstien has donated  million dollars to charity


    But the most glaring exaggeration appeared on Wikipedia. A user name apparently connected to Mr. Epstein edited the page for the foundation and put its annual outlay at $200 million a year — just under the amount the Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg contributed to charity in 2018.
    Why do you think ellen donates millions of dollars
    They give to charity because they either are charitable or simply wish to appear charitable. There's nothing remotely suspicious about this.
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    The us fetality rate has hit it's lowest point.That is the reason why birthrates are so slow.THe reason why we have low fertility rate is because of all the poison they put in food and vaccine's.But mostly food.Vox says low birthrates is because of low fertility.

    Bill gate was showing a chart.The chart showed as he Vaccinated and did his charity there the population decreased.He was answering the question would bill saving all these lives lead to an overpopulation problem.He responded by saying no as we improve medicine the population decrease. Because woman choose to have fewer children





    Pepsi makes there Taste receptors that they use in the Pepsi out of aborted babies.They admitted this after they were accused of cannabalism by pro life people.IT is something about aborted babies having taste receptors like ours so they have to mutate them into the man made taste receptor's to make them taste better.

    Cbs news is a mainstream media and the fact that they made this article should scare you



    Zero eviddence has been shown that healthy people have less children.
    The evidence was in the video you linked in the OP.
    he did not provide any evidence for that being the reason for decrease population.



    Why do you think that sites like these are correct and the entire rest of the world, including the entire scientific community, is wrong?
    ya they are correct.No not the entire science community. Have you seen what they do to doctors and or scientist who reject the vaccine safe narrative? Only the pro vaccine people can talk.Others are dangerous and should be put in jail


    doctor at the prestigious Cleveland Clinic sparked an online uproar when he published an article Friday filled with anti-vaccine rhetoric, including the widely debunked claim that vaccines are linked to autism. Physicians took to Twitter to call the article “vile” and “Post-truth medicine” and demand whether the clinic endorsed its doctor’s views.

    Jfk nephew blasted bill gates over india stuff.So yes it did happen


    National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB

    Robert Francis Kennedy Jr. is an American environmental attorney, author, and opponent of vaccination. Kennedy is a son of Robert F. Kennedy and nephew of former president John F. Kennedy. He is the president of the board of Waterkeeper Alliance, a non-profit environmental group that he helped found in 1999.




    Jfk nephew owns a great site called children's health defense.

    Robert kenedy tells all.. He talks about how the vaccines are created with aborted babies.He talks about how 450 aborted babies gene's have been genetically engineered by scientists to cause cancer and put in vaccines





    They give to charity because they either are charitable or simply wish to appear charitable. There's nothing remotely suspicious about this.

    Second one>THey simply want to appear charitable.So if they ever get caught people will point to all these charity donation. 





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    Feel free to leave yourself and your children unvaccinated as a scientific experiment to see what happens.
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    thank you for that right. Most would throw me in jail for that.
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    Not in the US. It isn't illegal to not vaccinate your children. It's just risky and foolish.
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    Since the planet is overpopulated, advocacy for smaller populations is just common sense.
    Or we can increase the carrying capacity without killing endangered species.  #IndoorFarming.
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    Since the planet is overpopulated, advocacy for smaller populations is just common sense.
    Or we can increase the carrying capacity without killing endangered species.  #IndoorFarming.
    What are the advantages of increasing human population above our present 7.8 billion?
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    More people means things get produced faster because there are more people to do productive things in society.
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    So...you an anti-vaxxer? 
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    More people means things get produced faster because there are more people to do productive things in society.
    Hasn't this been increasingly less true since the Industrial Revolution?  The robots coming online today can replace most repetitive humans tasks for a tenth of the cost of human employment.  We'll need far fewer people in the future to build the machines that replace most repetitive human tasks.

    Furthermore, I'd argue that humans produce too many things already.  The fastest growing industries in the world are waste management and storage for all the stuff we want but don't need.  I'm not sure I'd call increased production a positive value when we so many already have more than they need.

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    The robots coming online today can replace most repetitive humans tasks for a tenth of the cost of human employment.
    So then there are more humans to build more robots.  People are a recourse because labor is a commodity.  The more people that exist, the more labor is available.  As there world's population skyrocketed, so have standards of living worldwide.  The percentage of people living in absolute poverty has plummeted as populations have skyrocketed.  Our future is bright I think.
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    Bill said in every country the more they vaccinate the more the population decrease.
    He didn't say that though lol.
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    Imagine that in a small town a census is conducted every year.

    Year 1 - 1000 people
    Year 2 - 1100 people
    Year 3 - 1190 people
    Year 4 - 1270 people
    Year 5 - 1340 people
    Year 6 - 1400 people
    Year 7 - 1450 people
    Year 8 - 1490 people
    Year 9 -1520 people
    Year 10 - 1540 people

    According to Crossed this hypothetical town is being "depopulated".