Who's The Creator of This Site?

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I would also like to know...
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- I have the sneaking suspicion that finding a similar debate site to DDO created few days ago just as the spams flood DDO is not a coincidence. 
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I'd be inclined to agree... 
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Okay folk, I am gonna try to kill all the suspicions and tell you the whole story. 

So initially, this site was not meant to be in English and have anything to do with DDO.

It happened ~ 3 years ago when I stumbled upon DDO and I liked the idea which is what I was looking for back then in order to practice my programming skills since I hate to practice on abstract things or the usual exercises. So I decided to kill two birds with one rock. I decided to try and implement this site with the new programming language and at the same time, move this experience of DDO to my country's domain and therefore the design resemblance, because it didn't make sense to bother too much trying to come up with an alternative to what already works perfectly. So I did create that website and it turned out to be crap because it was a mess both from the design point of view and code quality.  So I closed it.

Then, believe me or not, I changed the programming language again and decided what the heck, I am just gonna do the same but properly this time. And I did it and it's still up and running -> https://smartdebate.ru, do you see the resemblance? Lol

Truth be told, it had no success whatsoever, the debating is not a common thing here and even though I contacted probably all the debating clubs and forums I could find, it was to no avail.

Then I wanted to close it as well because God knows I tried but I noticed that DDO was overwhelmed with some Indian spammers and nothing was done about it and I actually liked DDO a lot, I didn't really participate in the community but I enjoyed reading the debates and it helped me to adjust some of my views on the world, believe me or not. So I decided to just translate the website to English and see what happens because I checked the alternatives and didn't like them too much, if to be honest. So here we are.

Regarding the spam, I have no clue whatsoever who is responsible for it but I freaking despise it.

And to be as open as I can get, I am just sick of people saying that it was me. Somebody actually left a feedback on the website asking not to spam DebateIsland.com. Seriously? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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You can say the same thing about Debate Island.
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@Earth
Your lies hold no weight. Please form the legal case against DI and the reasoning behind concluding they were the spammers. dI has existed long before this pirated-media advertising ddos attack and the creator is far more open about who they are than the crwtir of civil or debate art.

Aaron Golbin is a teen genius who developed the site as one of his three projects. 

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Creator of civid*
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@RationalMadman
DI has been spamming on DDO for a long time. I did not lie. DDO has been going down the drain for a while, though I will note that DA taken advantage of all the spam, so who knows.
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@Earth
I don't think you are talking about the same level or form of spam. It's true it was self promoting in a repetitive manner but that's beyond even being one hundred times less frequent, it's even less so, than the present spam attack.

Also it was debates and forum posts not sneaky PMs like civid used.

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Maybe DA's owner should answer a few questions, but DDO had issues for, like 2 years now? Maybe more. idk

I have nothing to say about Civid
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@Earth
The recent spam attack had a totally different form of bot spammer.

The former were a group of humans who set up '20 message at a time' bot programs and were desperate for cash sitting in Saudi, India or Romania or wherever hoping you had issues that you wanted to fix with voodoo spells or whatever else you needed and would ring their payphone line. It also was at times product owners or service providers.

What has happened recently is not actual advertising as you know it and has an EASIER solution. What's occurring at present is totally illegal in all senses of the word and is faster, organised hacker gangs making their pirated media easier to find on Google by posting it to a site they've heard in the hacker community doesn't have an active admin team and is high on Google search results of the free movie etc.
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@RationalMadman
So you want to contact Google? Not sure what you want.
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@Earth
I want you to stop pointing the finger at DI.
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I'm not pointing the finger at DI.
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@Earth
You did but you said 'can be said about' instead of 'is true about'. You equated something that shouldn't be equated. The creator of this site's timing was EXTREMELY suspicious as opposed to DI's in relation to the recent 'lethal speed' spam attack that's occurred on DDO.
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So you are pointing the finger at DA?
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@Earth
I would like a full explanation to depths beyond what's been provided about why the admin's account on DDO had 0 debates, 0 poll posts, 0 opinion posts, 0 forum posts, 0 friends and 0 details on the profile until the most recent, brutal spam attack occurred where he suddenly had closest site as identical to DDO as is feasible without violation intellectual property theft laws.
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Thats fine, though I wager the truth is more mundane. 
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@Earth
He had the account for 3 years.

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And he just hung around for 3 years? Just to 'steal' DDO? I'm going to wait for Airmax to sound off, or hard evidence either way. Untill then, I'm sure as shit not going over to DI.
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@Earth
I am on DI and I am on here. I am actually one of the few who could have reason to feel I'd only be allowed on one of the two (due to my vocal opposition to this site) and yet I am in both so why in your eyes is it one or the other?
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Its not a "one or the other" kind of deal, I simply don't like DI.
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https://web.archive.org/web/20151202080341/http://letsdebate.ru:80/

Here you can find the files for my first site which I mentioned above and which was closed, it was 2015.

That's the last time I even attempt to provide some evidence in my support.
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@Earth
Why is that? Just the same irrational 'it's too complicated for me' stuff? I'd happily simplify it for you.
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Why did your account have 0 activity of any kind prior to 5 days ago for 3 years?
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@RationalMadman
Read above, I have explained that.
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lolno


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@RationalMadman
The overwhelming number of DDO members are not posters. They either just read or never visit the site after creating their account. We had about 300 active members, but had more that 4,000 member accounts.

Give the guy a break. He didn't even advertise on DDO. We found him. I'm on DI but I'm leaving the site, the design is way too troublesome. It isn't worth the trouble, and the site is bandwidth intensive thus slow.

Stick around here, but if your conspiracy theory bones ache too much, find a place you like. But no one likes being publicly accused on only weak suspicion.

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The ONLY thing he did WAS ADVERTISE. I don't hate advertising at all. DDO was dying and everyone had to play dirty. DI spammed ads too.


Look at his activity. He solely advertised this in all his 3 years he existed only for the exodus, He is either our Noah or more like the Shiva of DDO posing as a Brahma.

It's all good with me. Juggle was stagnant and Airmax was one of the single most corrupt admins of a website I've ever seen. I got banned when Bench should for bullying me instead of me for biting back. Airmax was blind to things he how sees and he admitted things went very wrong with how he handled Bench (too leniently) with me back then. I saw max in ways no other did. He let me back knowing who I was and laughed and said that Juggle would let it slide so long as I denied who I was so they could officially say they'd never let me back. I now can openly tell you the f***ing bullsh** that happened which was that the only reason I'd ever get rebanned was admitting who I was to others than Max. He knew who I was every time and laughed WITH me at Juggle. You don't know deep down what type of person he was but he has altered. He's a much less corrupt human being now than he was 3 years back (I got banned 5 years back but he remained corrupt to the core until 3 years ago where I noticed his personality altering and moral compass coming into action).

I love that DDO ended in such a brutal humiliating way for Juggle and I hope Bench shows up here so I can show him how I play the games now. I will be the one to get him banned from here if he picks a fight, not him getting me banned. He is a schoolyard bully and I am the gangster teacher everyone only whispers about but I used to be the easiest guy to pick on in the yard and would yap like a puppy to his taunts.

I don't feel rage about Bench anymore, I feel agony and let it stay as agony as it taught me one of my many life lessons.


The creator of this site was very likely involved in the demise of DDO no matter what he openly states and I applaud the positive way he profited from the well engineered demise. I have literally zero qualms about smirking at what happened with him but want to explicitly state I was not involved in the spam and that I supported DI as the exodus place and still believe strongly in people using both this and DI.