Are Progressives pleased with the defeat of California's Prop 16?

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You should be. Prop 16 would have repealed a current constitutional provision that made it unlawful for California's state and local governments to discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to people based on race, ethnicity, national origin or sex. Prop 16 wold return racial quotas. I thought Progressives opposed such matters. I'm involved in a debate right now that argues against such stuff. But, I'll wager you're upset. Take a read from the following website if the Sanders Institute: https://www.sandersinstitute.com/blog/towards-a-socialist-theory-of-racism
If the word "subsume" escapes you, look it up. Note, too, in this Institute, it's leading members. Some faces should be familiar. Yes, if you are a true Progressive, the defeat of this Proposition should worry you, but, I'll bet it doesn't, because you don't really understand what Progressive really is, just as you don't understand what Biden means by raising your taxes by repeal of the TaxCuts and Jobs Act of 2017.
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I have a feeling people realized that repealing that would create state sanctioned discrimination just to reverse discrimination 
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So the most progressive state in the Union rejects affirmative action in a landslide and your read is that progressive are upset by the loss?  Who are these magical progressives so unrepresented by the hard evidence of California's vote?  Is it so impossible to believe that the left is so much better than the right at rejecting its lunatic fringe? 

Let's note that  the Sander's Institute website went defunct before Prop 16 was on the ballot.    I don't understand how West's sermon relates to affirmative action since he doesn't seem to touch on that topic.  I understand he uses a lot of scary words like Marxist but once you get past the labels he's not saying much beyond racism=bad.

Therefore concrete antiracist struggle is both an ethical imperative and political necessity for democrats[s]..... It is even more urgent as once again racist policies and Third World intervention become more acceptable to many Americans. A more effective democratic...... movement engaged in antiracist and anti-imperialist struggle can help turn the tide. It depends on how well we understand the past and present, how courageously we act, and how true we remain to our democratic..... ideals of freedom, equality, and democracy.
I'm fine with this.  I think democracies ought be against racism and empires.  I don't even think such a claim should be all that controversial.

I'll leave the tax remark as non-sequitur re: affirmative action