Stephen Hawking: There is no god

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    There is no God -- that's the conclusion of the celebrated physicist Stephen Hawking, whose final book is published Tuesday.

    The book, which was completed by his family after his death, presents answers to the questions that Hawking said he received most during his time on Earth.


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    And why should we take the word of this particular man?
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    I didn't suggest you should.
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    This from the guy who believes in "black holes".
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    Because he was smarter than all of us put together.
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    You don't think black holes exist? The evidence for them is very strong.
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    This from the guy who believes in "black holes".
    Black holes are predicted by General Relativity, many candidates for black holes have already been observed, the largest being at the center of most galaxies.

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    No he wasn't . 
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    Well, he was certainly smart enough to understand that rocks don't have purpose.


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    Steven Hawking is a genius because I was told he was a genius.





    Steven Hawking doesn't believe there is a God because...


    "we would know everything that God would know, if there were a God, which there isn't."


    For someone who is supposed to be such a genius, he sure does have a moronic reason for not believing in God.


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    It's quite alright, lots of believers don't understand anything Hawking says, that's why he's so often misrepresented, like you just did there.
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    By all means, present his actual position.



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    They fear intellect, the application of intellect reduces the chances that their fairy tales will be believed to almost zero.
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    Mopac: wrote

    Hawking doesn't believe there is a God because...


    "we would know everything that God would know, if there were a God, which there isn't."


    For someone who is supposed to be such a genius, he sure does have a moronic reason for not believing in God.

    So this statement from god himself is yet another lie from god himself. I see.
    And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,

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    You mean you don't know his position but are eager to comment on it?

    Yes, that's how it usually goes with the dishonest theist.

    Make silly claim based on ignorance and then when called out on it, demand others educate you.
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    I simply quoted Hawking and all people can do is accuse me of lying or misrepresenting what he said.

    Well, what is he actually saying then?
    I do not claim to have an exhaustive knowledge of Hawking's opinion of God. I can say that every atheistic statement I've heard or read him make looks superstitious to me.

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    I do not claim to have an exhaustive knowledge of Hawking's opinion of God.
    You have an extremely tiny amount of knowledge for most things, which you seem to prefer, yet are only too happy to opine on the things you don't know.
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    I find it very understandable that people don't want to believe we're random accidents living in a meaningless universe.

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    What people "want" to believe has no effect on reality.
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    If you love The Truth, there will come a point when it becomes obvious that "wants" get in the way of this.


    I'm sure Steven Hawking has plenty of cause to be bitter about God. 

    Is he even really a scientist? Or is he one of these sit around the fireplace while drinking wine and intellectually masturbating types? For some reason, these tend to be the ones that get propped up to be celebrity "scientists".



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    I'm sure Steven Hawking has plenty of cause to be bitter about God. 
    No reason to be bitter at God when it's God's followers who do all the damage.
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    What people "want" to believe has no effect on reality.
    What people want to believe has every effect on human history, human perception, and human life. But yes, it has no effect on objective reality beyond the human experience.
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    Speak for yourself. 
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    Oh dear. The willful ignorance demonstrated here is indicative of the dishonesty of every post you have ever made.
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    Don't let others speak for you.