Evidence for god?

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  • TheUnderdog
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    There are thousands of species on planet earth, probably millions.

    Each species on Earth, according to evolution has a common ancestor.

    But if every species on earth had a common ancestor, then all of the animals that existed at this time would have interbred with each other and as a result, there would either be only be one species on this planet, or no species on the planet if the species starved to death due to our distant ancestors interbreeding with the ancestors of every other species(which was the same species back then, so viable offspring would be produced)

    This is what would happen if science’s view on the origin of life was true.

    But we know millions of species exist on this planet.  The alternative to evolution is creationism:

    With creationism, every species was distinctly made by a higher power.  This explains the millions of species we know exist today.  

    If evolution is real, the animals of the distant past would have interbred into unification.  If creationism is real, it helps explain why different  species exist today.
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    But if every species on earth had a common ancestor, then all of the animals that existed at this time would have interbred with each other and as a result, there would either be only be one species on this planet, or no species on the planet if the species starved to death due to our distant ancestors interbreeding with the ancestors of every other species(which was the same species back then, so viable offspring would be produced)

    This is what would happen if science’s view on the origin of life was true.

    I think you are making a very wrong assumption their just saying. Just cause creatures interbread it doesn't mean they are all gonna come out of the melting pot the same.
    The way it goes is that because their is so much diversion there are so many different animals becuase they all have different things to do to survive. You cant get one animal that does it all and even if it could you just need one thing to go wrong with the environment and they all get wiped out. 
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    But if every species on earth had a common ancestor, then all of the animals that existed at this time would have interbred with each other and as a result, there would either be only be one species on this planet, or no species on the planet if the species starved to death due to our distant ancestors interbreeding with the ancestors of every other species(which was the same species back then, so viable offspring would be produced)
    Well no. The point of natural selection is that mutations occur, meaning that you can start with a single object and end with many different organisms. What likely happened is that yes, there was one speciesism to begin with.

    Of course, you cannot expect every single organism in the world to stay shoulder to shoulder for millions of years, some will move into the oceans and other will move into forests. With different environments, the lucky organisms will receive random beneficial mutations, while the unlucky ones die. 

    Also, this isn't proof for God. God isn't the default answer for whenever you get stuck on something you do not understand. You still have the trouble of proving that a) God exists b) God did in fact do what you believe he did and c) that it was your God, as oppose to the thousands praised through history which did what you claim he did. 



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    Relative to your first premise, which of the many believed in Gods throughout history are you referring to regarding your main proposition? 

    Azura Mazda, Angus, Belenos, Brigid, Dana, Lugh, Dagda, Epona, Allah Aphrodite, Apollo, Ares, Artemis, Atehna, Demeter, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Gaia, Hades, Hekate, Helios, Hephaestus, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Pan, Poseidon, Selene, Uranus, Zeus, Mathilde, Elves, Eostre, Frigg, Ganesh, Hretha, Saxnot, Shef, Shiva Thuno, Tir, Vishnu, Weyland, Woden, Yahweh, Alfar, Balder, Beyla, Bil, Bragi, Byggvir, Dagr, Disir, Eir, Forseti, Freya, Freyr, Frigga, Heimdall, Hel, Hoenir, Idunn, Jord, Lofn, Loki, Mon, Njord, Norns, Nott, Odin, Ran, Saga, Sif, Siofn, Skadi, Snotra, Sol, Syn, Ull, Thor, Tyr, Var, Vali, Vidar, Vor, Herne, Holda, Nehalennia, Nerthus, Endovelicus, Ataegina, Runesocesius, Bacchus, Ceres, Cupid, Diana, Janus, Juno, Jupiter, Maia, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Neptune, Pluto, Plutus, Proserpina, Venus, Vesta, Vulcan, Attis, Cybele, El-Gabal, Isis, Mithras, Sol Invictus, Endovelicus, Anubis, Aten, Atum, Bast, Bes, Geb, Hapi, Hathor, Heget, Horus, Imhotep, Isis, Khepry, Khnum, Maahes, Ma"at, Menhit, Mont, Naunet, Neith, Nephthys, Nut, Osiris, Ptah, Ra, Sekhmnet, Sobek, Set, Tefnut, Thoth, An, Anshar, Anu, Apsu, Ashur, Damkina, Ea, Enki, Enlil, Ereshkigal, Nunurta, Hadad, Inanna, Ishtar, Kingu, Kishar, Marduk, Mummu, Nabu, Nammu, Nanna, Nergal, Ninhursag, Ninlil, Nintu, Shamash, Sin, Tiamat, Utu, Mitra, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukiyomi, Inari, Tengu, Izanami, Izanagi, Daikoku, Ebisu, Benzaiten, Bishamonten, Fukurokuju, Jurojin, Hotei, Quetzalcoatl, Tlaloc, Inti, Kon, Mama Cocha, Mama Quilla, Manco Capac, Pachacamac and Zaramama, Vera.

    Awaiting a cogent answer, thank you.



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    Didn't Adam and Eve's children inbreed?


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    YOUR UNFORTUNATE QUOTE RELATING TO CHRISTIANITY: "Didn't Adam and Eve's children inbreed?

    YES!, there was inbreeding from Adam and Eve's children forward.  Notwithstanding, Noah and family also inbreeded as well upon the Ark and when landing upon land 371 days later after the Flood subsequent to Jesus' killing His entire creation in His Great Flood.  

    On a side-note, can you even imagine an innocent zygote and fetus being allegedly evil where they need to be horrifically destroyed within their mothers womb when they have drowned along with the mother? (Genesis 6:5-6) Can an innocent born baby really be evil where they knew not of Yahweh God to begin with and needed to die a drastic drowning death? (Genesis 6:5-6)  Can you see these innocent children hopelessly treading water in our Jesus’ Great Flood for hours as they cry out in horror to their mothers?

    Picture little innocent children's muscles burning due to large amounts of lactic acid production, where when they finally give up in pain, they went under and held their breaths as acidic carbon dioxide eroded their lungs until the unbearable pain forced them to inhale, where there was no air for them to breathe, and then they died a terrible death. What makes this even worse for me, is the biblical fact that our Yahweh/Jesus god was watching these precious little babies and children drowning a ghastly death! (Proverbs 15:3)


    With the above biblical axioms is when I take exception to Bible inept pseudo-christians that are against abortion. This is because as shown in the Great Flood, Jesus as Yahweh God incarnate was the number one abortionist of all time, therefore showing them to be outright hypocrites.  This is also barring the fact that Jesus created brutal abortions in the book of Hosea, and if the cursed women actually gave birth, He was going to slaughter their babies! 

    I've said this many times, It is truly hard to be a TRUE Christian in the 21st century.  :(


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    Didn't Adam and Eve's children inbreed?
    Great Question. 

    What is the answer? 

    What is the name of any of their children and also what is the name of the children who had interbred with each other? 


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    TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman NOW, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she/unknown follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, an embarrassed LIAR of their true gender,


    YOUR MEANINGLESS QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN POST #7: "What is the name of any of their children and also what is the name of the children who had interbred with each other? "

    As if any names of  Adam and Eve's children and their children, and so on and so forth, have any aspect to the end results of ungodly incest and interbreeding is moot!  The real question is why did our serial killing Jesus, as Yahweh God incarnate, couldn't have come up with a better concept of procreating HIs creation, understand Bible fool?  Since Jesus as God knows everything (1 John 3:20), then why did He let interbreeding happen in the first place, especially since it causes many different and disturbing generational maladies?

    It is understood that you have to remain silent in not addressing my posts to you, which is essentially running away from the Bible, which is just fine with the Brother D., because it saves me time in me easily refuting your Satanic spin doctoring and lame responses. But at the same time, it shows that Jesus and I completely own you and your Bible stupidity within this forum, praise!


    NEXT BIBLE IGNORANT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN WILL BE ...?
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    Does Everyyyyyyyyyy animal come from the two of each Noah rounded up ?



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    Yes
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    Does Everyyyyyyyyyy animal come from the two of each Noah rounded up ?
    Every land animal and bird and creeping thing.  Fish - not so.  

    And there were 2 of some and 7 of others, depending upon whether they were clean or not clean.  

    Incidentally, evolutionists teach that all of humanity came from two original humans. And similarly it also teaches that animals came from one or two original parents as well. 

    This was the basis of Darwin's theory for diversity.  All of the varieties of birds came from the same parents, yet over time due to natural selection, bred into a multitude of variety of birds.  

    The notion that all of life comes from a very few - if not one or two original parents is not mutually exclusive to evolutionists or creationists. 

    The difference is that creationists take the view it happened quickly and the evolutionist over millions of years.  In short it is a question of timing. 
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    TRADESECRET, a Bible 2nd class woman whose gender went from a man, to a woman, and now unknown, the Debate Runaway on Jesus' true MO,  Bible denier of Jesus being the Trinity God in the OT, the runaway to what division of Christianity he/she/unknown follows, the pseudo-christian that has committed the Unpardonable Sin, the number 1 Bible ignorant fool regarding Noah's ark, the pseudo-christian that says kids that curse their parents should be killed, states there is FICTION within the scriptures, and is guilty of Revelation 22:18-19 and 2 Timothy 4:3, an admitted sexual deviant, and had ungodly Gender Reassignment Surgery, Satanic Bible Rewriter, an embarrassed LIAR of their true gender,


    YOUR WISHY-WASHY QUOTE OF BIBLE IGNORANCE: “And there were 2 of some and 7 of others, depending upon whether they were clean or not clean”.

    Tradesecret, him/her/unknown, can’t you use the appropriate verse regarding the topic that you are so desperately trying to explain?  Here, let me help you once again, the passage that you are forgetting about is herewith: "Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate,” (Genesis 7:2)

    Barring the fact of you not giving biblical credence to fish because of your ineptness, remember when I literally Bible Slapped you Silly®️ upon the Noah’s Ark scenario a while back? Sure you do, therefore you didn’t learn a thing from my Bible tutelage in setting you straight for a change.  To relive one memorable moment of you grasping for the proverbial straws in this discussion, who could forget subsequent to me schooling you again upon the topic, you mentioned that Jesus put “baby dinosaurs” upon the Ark to fit all kinds of breathing life?  This was a true Saturday Night Live comedic moment! LOL!  Priceless!

    Your biblical ignorance and stupidity lives on as shown in your post #11, congratulations once again!


    NEXT PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN THAT IS NOT AS DUMBFOUNDED OF THE BIBLE AS TRADESECRET IS, WILL BE…?



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    A new comparison of the human and chimpanzee genomes suggests that after the two lineages separated, they may have begun interbreeding... A principal finding is that the X chromosomes of humans and chimpanzees appear to have diverged about 1.2 million years more recently than the other chromosomes.
    The research suggests:
    There were in fact two splits between the human and chimpanzee lineages, with the first being followed by interbreeding between the two populations and then a second split. The suggestion of a hybridization has startled paleoanthropologists, who nonetheless are treating the new genetic data seriously.