Left Wing want all have a chance to succeed. Right Wing prefer it only for a select few.

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  • RationalMadman
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    These are the facts. You can now proceed to spread your lies.
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    You blocked me, so I shouldn't respond to you directly, but unblock me and I can respond.
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    This has nothing to do with you anyway.
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    Then who does this apply too?
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    I didn't address it to anyone.
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    So then are you wanting people to respond to it?  If you post politics online, expect pushback and don't complain when you get it.
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    Then give pushback.
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    You blocked me; me giving pushback is harassment until you unblock me.
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    Yeah, I'm not unblocking you.
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    How many people have you blocked?
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    Now you are actually harassing me, discussing the thread's topic wouldn't be harassment.
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    R888d615ddf956dd87bdd06f35e9aa3b8 (655×451) (bing.com) is what happens when a government tries to fix poverty by giving people handouts.  The poverty rate stagnates after falling for decades.
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    So, it reduces until they stop? Or?

    I didn't just mean handouts by this thread's title. I meant affirmative action, encouraging cultures to intermingle, fighting against discrimination of many kinds, reducing the stigma on mental health and things along those lines.

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    He’s talking to himself in his safe space bubble, just let him be
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     I meant affirmative action
    Black people and other minorities should not have advantages in the college process on the basis of race.  They got to earn it like everyone else.  Putting a minority in Harvard when they aren't qualified for that (because them like most whites aren't smart enough to go to Harvard) makes them more likely to drop out and not go to any college, which harms minorities in the long run.  It also harms the whites who were unable to get into Harvard despite being qualified because someone else had skin color privilige.  The only people who should go to Harvard are those who are smart enough to go there, regardless of race.

    encouraging cultures to intermingle
    You mean assilimination, which is something the right promotes more than the left as the left prefers, "multiculturalism" which leads to different cultures in a country which leads to separatist movements, which can cause a war which the left is against, but multiculturalism can lead to wars for independence on cultural grounds.  This is how Austria Hungary broke up.

     fighting against discrimination of many kinds
    This is vauge.

    reducing the stigma on mental health and things along those lines
    This is also vauge as being autistic isn't really stigmatized.


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    RM is fine with talking about his ideas.  DART has no safe spaces.
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    Thanks for your worthwhile input.
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    Black people and other minorities should not have advantages in the college process on the basis of race.  They got to earn it like everyone else.  
    They had/have a disadvantage in their earlier years, education-wise and extracurricular-wise to compensate for. This carries through to college and through to the working world (where actually racism itself in the hiring and promotion process needs to be stamped out on top of disadvantages).
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    Yoy do know affirmative action isn't solely racial right? It also covers income levels within caucasians, sexes (not genders, sexes which is important to know as a trans woman counts as a male, or should do, since it's sexism being battled not genderism, transphobia is a separate metric in affirmative action), the disabled or mentally disordered and such.
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    You mean assilimination, which is something the right promotes more than the left as the left prefers, "multiculturalism" which leads to different cultures in a country which leads to separatist movements, which can cause a war which the left is against, but multiculturalism can lead to wars for independence on cultural grounds.  This is how Austria Hungary broke up.
    You are wrong. The Right has never and will never properly support assimilation. Whether they are the invading culture or the welcoming culture, the Right Wing sipprot segregation and isolation, especially in marriage and socialising.
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    Thanks for your worthwhile input.
    I was just trying to stop the harassment 🤷‍♂️
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    They had/have a disadvantage in their earlier years, education-wise and extracurricular-wise to compensate for.
    The lurking variable is black children are more likely to grow up in single motherhood homes, and single motherhood houses are more likely to have kids that don't do as well in school.  They do tend to be more independent though, so colleges can give single motherhood kids an advantage, but it shouldn't be on the basis of race.

    You are wrong. The Right has never and will never properly support assimilation.
    The right supports assilimination; which is why they want immigrants to learn English.

     the Right Wing sipprot segregation and isolation, especially in marriage and socialising.
    This isn't accurate.  The right doesn't care which race you marry or socialize with.
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    This isn't accurate.  The right doesn't care which race you marry or socialize with.
    In every single race, ethnicity, culture or religion it is those furthest right-wing that care the most about this and those towards the left that care the least. Those extremely far left sometimes looparound because of their extremist mentality but those even moderately right-wing are already rather ethnocentric. I've never in my life met an exception to that rule. I've met left-wingers who are somewhat ethnocentric but never met a right-winger who isn't, ever. They try to hide it if they're polite but if you're observant of their life decisions and atittudes overall, they are ethnocentric.


    Both wings want foreigners to learn the local language but it's true to say that left-wingers are more accepting of extreme accents and language barriers.
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    The lurking variable is black children are more likely to grow up in single motherhood homes, and single motherhood houses are more likely to have kids that don't do as well in school.  They do tend to be more independent though, so colleges can give single motherhood kids an advantage, but it shouldn't be on the basis of race.

    They factor in overall parental income especially for first-years. If one parent is earning a lot, they don't factor the single parenting aspect in much however that is a question asked sometimes for student loans. In America it depends which loan provider, they may demand less (or actually more, depending on their approach) interest rate if you answer that or may refuse to give you a loan if they consider you too high-risk. In social democracies where it isn't free to study at university, the loans are government-provided and you only need to pay it back if you earn a certain income level before you turn 50. The catch is that you only get four years of loans, sometimes five if you study through the whole way into Master's or if you study a fuller course like Medicine or Law. Why four rather than three for the bachelor's? They give one year leniency for choosing the 'wrong degree'.
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    The left/right distinction originates with the  formation of the first French Republic.   Those representatives that felt that human rights should be prioritized over property right assembled on the left side of the court, those who prioritized property rights over human rights assembled on the right.  That is the inherent, fundamental meaning of that distinction.  By definition, democracies are left wing projects.  Monarchy, autocracy, theocracy, oligarchy, supremacy, class, caste, and aristocracy are right wing.