---Star Trek Deep Space Nine (DS9) Mafia: DP1---

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Explain conflicts. As in killing/roleblocking or does it also apply to investigations? Also explain how their results will be messed up. Flavoring for investigations, randomized redirection, what?
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@Greyparrot
post #560 proves selective editing to twist words out of context. 

And how was it taken out of context? 

My night action is powerless...meaning it does absolutely nothing.
If someone has a power that conflicts with visitors, then I will mess up their results/intentions.

You know, whether or not i include the context, it still looks like something as opposed to nothing. 

Also, I wasn't pointing it out as it being scummy, its just funny AF 😂.
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Yes I meant to say Parrot I miswrote. By parroting I mean going along with/repeating my actions. You initially voted only for his claim (which you specifically said after I asked for clarification) and then (with no provocation other than you thinking I suggested Parrot as our lynch target) immediately voted for his death before he even obliged the claim request. 
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@Aporia
Explain conflicts. As in killing/roleblocking or does it also apply to investigations? Also explain how their results will be messed up. Flavoring for investigations, randomized redirection, what?
My worry was that my visit would somehow nullify a town power somehow, so if I would broadcast it, then that person would have an opportunity to say "please do not visit me"..also if someone would have a power to detect visitors, they will know ahead of time that I will be a visitor.


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Are we to believe the name of yer role is "powerless"?
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I would also like to remind you that I am not familiar with the game mechanics. I am still learning. This mistake made the distinction between a claim vote and a lynch vote very clear. 
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Are we to believe the name of yer role is "powerless"?
no, my role is compulsive visitor.

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Im not asking why you publicly stated that you would be visiting Budda. Im trying to understand the mechanics of yer claim. If you visit person x and person x has a role that they attempt to use then yer role will "mess up" their action? Is this correct? If so explain how so. Does it redirect, rebound, flavor, block, what? 
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Like if you target a goon does it redirect their kill? Or flavor a cops results? Does it only affect scum PR's or everyone? Also does it impede the targeted player from having a town NA performed on them such as a visitor, vig, or cop?
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Im not willing to end the Dp until Parrot answers these questions, specifically if he said hes planning on targetting Budda.
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Kai Winn Adami is clearly an antagonist. I do not see how "always showing up when she's not wanted" ties into that character, except in her capacity as a villain type character. From what I'm seeing in reviews, fan discussions, etc. she's an antagonist who people like because she's a complex and shaded antagonist, but an antagonist nonetheless.
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Kai Winn Adami is clearly an antagonist. I do not see how "always showing up when she's not wanted" ties into that character, except in her capacity as a villain type character. From what I'm seeing in reviews, fan discussions, etc. she's an antagonist who people like because she's a complex and shaded antagonist, but an antagonist nonetheless.
She was along the lines of a political mob boss.

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Thats fairly obvious from a casual read through of her wiki. Do you find it more likely that bsh included characters he personally likes as town, parrot (as scum) couldnt be bothered to read the first paragraph of his characters wiki, or that he would research a fake claim without seeing her characterization as a possible red flag when choosong her? Or (I prefer this one) its Dp1 and we dont yet know how the mod organized affiliation.
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@Aporia
Im not asking why you publicly stated that you would be visiting Budda. Im trying to understand the mechanics of yer claim. If you visit person x and person x has a role that they attempt to use then yer role will "mess up" their action? Is this correct? If so explain how so. Does it redirect, rebound, flavor, block, what? 
The mechanics according to my role pm (paraphrased) is that I will visit and do nothing..no flavor that I know of..but if someone I visit has a role that is activated from visits or a role that targets visitors..I want it to be public.

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I think its interesting to note that none of the main half dozen or so cast members have been claimed.
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@Greyparrot
Hmmm
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@Aporia
That's fairly obvious from a casual read through of her wiki. Do you find it more likely that bsh included characters he personally likes as town

I would think so. Given the description I received from him with my character and the background on Adami it's not unreasonable to assume.
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@Aporia
its Dp1 and we dont yet know how the mod organized affiliation

True... I can't help but feel that my own PM gives a hint to how roles are actually assigned in this game. Cause "always showing up when she's not wanted" seems more a personal disposition on the character. And if there's a character who redeems themselves, but I dont like them. I'm gonna give that character the most suspicious role in the existence of mafia, without it actually doing anything 😂. 
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Given the description I received from him with my character and the background on Adami it's not unreasonable to assume.

So you are saying your PM includes what is/seems to be Bsh's personal feelings toward the character? 
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@Buddamoose
Yes.
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And I would go further than saying it seems that way. That is most certainly how the character affiliations were discerned. 
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Vtl supa
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Claim or lynch?
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I know it's not much, and this actually flips my read on GP. But I think Argent just chimed in about it too. And I can see in a loose sense that GP might have meant "mess up" by that, as opposed to his role directpy or indirectly interfering with anything. 


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He already claimed fully. Dp ends in 6 hours and hes our best lead.
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Im not commenting on his role anymore lol
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@ArgentTongue
would go further than saying it seems that way. That is most certainly how the character affiliations were discerned. 

I would disagree. Bsh1 doesn't like my character, having liked a previous host. Him being bitter she died is why I have a useless role.(i pointed this out way back) Not my affiliation. But maybe rather than it being exclusive to either one, he's just picking and choosing? He's already pretty much done exactly that if his disposition towards the characters is determined just one or the other, or both? 



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Jadzia Dax?
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Dp ends in 6 hours
Shit really? Suppose its been about 3 days

Unvote VTL Supa
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Town

-parrot
-budda

Null (in order of most town to least)

-mcsloth
-warren
-vaarka
-argent

Scum

-supa
-wyl (slight lean)