RNG Mafia (RESTARTED) DP1

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Welcome to DP1 (again)!

Here are the possible Power Roles (rolled once for each player in the game):

Mafia:
No power role (50% chance)
1 power role, selected from pool (50% chance)

Town:
No power role (70% Chance)
1 Power role, selected from pool (30% chance)

Power Role Pool (equal odds each)

Mafia: 3x Roleblocker, 2x Redirector, Janitor, Ninja, Strongman, Lookout

Town: 1x Bulletproof, Tracker, 2x Doctor, Watcher, 3x Roleblocker, Bodyguard, Popular (gone in MYLO/LYLO),  1x Gunsmith, 1x Commuter, 1x Weak Cop

The game will be a 2v7.

With 9 players alive, it will take 5 votes to lynch.

1. Whiteflame
2. Incel-Chud
3. Supadudz
4. Oromagi
5. Mikal
6. Pie
7. Earth
8. Badger
9. Greyparrot

Good luck to all participants!

The DP ends on February 16, at 10:00 PM Eastern Time Zone (USA).
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welcome to the restart
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welcome
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Lol, OK. Problems rescinded.

How is everyone? Just got home from work.
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VTL Supa cause he gae
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Mikal was the Lookout and I was the Janitor btw in case y’all were wondering. 
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Supa (1/5) - Pie
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What the heck happened.
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Had to restart because I screwed up the DP starting post https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/7320-rng-mafia-dp1
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I am town vanilla hi!
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Hiiii 
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VTL Supadudz

because he is won [sic] minibus
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Oromagi
############town#################
Whiteflame
Pie
Earth
Greyparrot
Incel-Chud
Supadudz
Mikal
Badger




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UVC
Supa (2/5) - Pie, Oro

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I'm probably absent until late Saturday night/ early Sunday.
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Current Vote Count
Supa (2/5) - Pie, Oromagi

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Oromagi
===TOWN===================
Whiteflame
Pie
Earth
Greyparrot
Badger
Incel-Chud
Supadudz
Mikal
===SCUM===================

UVC
Supa (2/5) - Pie, Oro


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Checking in
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We probably just have to pick someone at random and lynch then. Hope for a CC in the process and behavioral tells
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Alright, been busy today, but going to give my thoughts in general on the setup.

Well, given that we know all the possible roles that anyone could have, I think that pressuring for a claim isn't all that likely to land us anywhere positive, especially given that 70% of town doesn't have PR, which means, if we're assuming the 7-2 town-mafia split, there are likely only two or three PRs among town and likely only one on scum. That leaves scum with numerous potential fake claims that make them far less likely to be CC'd even if they claimed one, and that's assuming that they don't just claim vanilla.

In other words, pressuring people isn't going to accomplish much aside from yielding some (at this point at least) weak behavioral tells. Still a good idea to push on those that aren't posting (VTL Mikal), but that can only accomplish so much at this stage.
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We probably just have to pick someone at random and lynch then. Hope for a CC in the process and behavioral tells

I'd prefer someone who promises to be unavailable.  

For example, you and Mikal both promised unavailable at the top of the first game and both proved scum but neither have confirmed unavailability this game (perhaps assuming that was already stated).  Badger promises unavailability this game though he made no such claim in the false start game.

Therefore, I like the idea of  starting with badger.
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Current Vote Count
Supa (2/5) - Pie, Oromagi
Mikal (1/5) - Whiteflame

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I'd prefer someone who promises to be unavailable.  

For example, you and Mikal both promised unavailable at the top of the first game and both proved scum but neither have confirmed unavailability this game (perhaps assuming that was already stated).  Badger promises unavailability this game though he made no such claim in the false start game.

Therefore, I like the idea of  starting with badger.
I actually like this

Unvote

VTL Badger
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well it was my idea so I best I'd better join in
head's up, second vote

UNVOTE
VTL Badger
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Badger (2/5) - Pie, Oromagi
Mikal (1/5) - Whiteflame

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four twentied and wrote a gay love poem for valentines day weekend
which is my way of procrastinating working on my whiteflame debate, i guess
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The Sheep Child

Farm boys wild to couple
With anything      with soft-wooded trees   
With mounds of earth      mounds   
Of pinestraw      will keep themselves off   
Animals by legends of their own:   
In the hay-tunnel dark
And dung of barns, they will   
Say    I have heard tell

That in a museum in Atlanta   
Way back in a corner somewhere   
There’s this thing that’s only half   
Sheep      like a woolly baby
Pickled in alcohol      because   
Those things can’t live.      his eyes
Are open      but you can’t stand to look   
I heard from somebody who ...

But this is now almost all   
Gone. The boys have taken   
Their own true wives in the city,
The sheep are safe in the west hill
Pasture      but we who were born there
Still are not sure. Are we,
Because we remember, remembered
In the terrible dust of museums?

Merely with his eyes, the sheep-child may   

Be saying      saying

         I am here, in my father’s house.
         I who am half of your world, came deeply
         To my mother in the long grass
         Of the west pasture, where she stood like moonlight
         Listening for foxes. It was something like love
         From another world that seized her
         From behind, and she gave, not lifting her head   
         Out of dew, without ever looking, her best
         Self to that great need. Turned loose, she dipped her face   
         Farther into the chill of the earth, and in a sound   
         Of sobbing      of something stumbling
         Away, began, as she must do,
         To carry me. I woke, dying,

         In the summer sun of the hillside, with my eyes
         Far more than human. I saw for a blazing moment   
         The great grassy world from both sides,
         Man and beast in the round of their need,
         And the hill wind stirred in my wool,
         My hoof and my hand clasped each other,
         I ate my one meal
         Of milk, and died
         Staring. From dark grass I came straight
         
         To my father’s house, whose dust
         Whirls up in the halls for no reason
         When no one comes      piling deep in a hellish mild corner,   
         And, through my immortal waters,
         I meet the sun’s grains eye
         To eye, and they fail at my closet of glass.
         Dead, I am most surely living
         In the minds of farm boys: I am he who drives
         Them like wolves from the hound bitch and calf
         And from the chaste ewe in the wind.
         They go into woods      into bean fields      they go
         Deep into their known right hands. Dreaming of me,   
         They groan      they wait      they suffer
         Themselves, they marry, they raise their kind.

-James L Dickey


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oops, sorry
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I don't like putting pressure based on activity unless we are late into the DP with no leads

I like whiteflames logic about claiming too
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Badger promises unavailability this game though he made no such claim in the false start game.

Because I was very ready to spend yesterday playing mafia. Tonight however I have a female over and if she finds me on this website we're doomed. At least this site is done for me.

I'll catch up with this game later tomorrow or Sunday.