Psaki exposed as anti-speech tyrant

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Journalists grill Psaki on why a person accused of crimes should be muzzled.

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Edward Snowden leaked classified processes, not just information but processes and details of methods of identifying and spying on threats to the US.

I have no clue why you are blaming Psaki, it's the only reason that Russia showed Snowden any mercy and offered him sanctuary in the embassy or whatever. In other words it's above 90% likely that Snowden has leaked classified NSA-level intel to Russian intelligence.

If you are going to accuse somebody of something at least be exact, like I was right here.


As for what he has told Russia beyond what he publicly released, that's between Putin, SVR RF (their intelligence agency's acronym has 2 parts to it) and Snowden himself.
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but processes and details of methods of identifying and spying on threats to the US.
You mean the processes of the NSA spying on American citizens. That kind of talk needs to be muzzled by tyrants.

 it's the only reason that Russia showed Snowden any mercy
Biden withdrawing from Afghanistan and caving in to all sorts of international demands presented that opportunity. Russia doesn't care that the NSA is fucking over Americans. Russia rather enjoys it. Snowden is just a way for Russia to troll Biden and weaken his standing in the world by exposing NSA war crimes against American citizens. Just like they jumped onboard the troll express calling America a fundamentally racist country like Biden has. All of these are self-inflicted grievances.

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The countries he leaked it to and that benefitted from it do more spying to their own citizens and infinitely more muzzling. So, where exactly are you coming from here?
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Russia doesn't care that the NSA is fucking over Americans. Russia rather enjoys it. Snowden is just a way for Russia to troll Biden and weaken his standing in the world by exposing NSA war crimes against American citizens. Just like they jumped onboard the troll express calling America a fundamentally racist country like Biden has. All of these are self-inflicted grievances.
The video you posted is from 2013, Biden was vice then and I doubt it was to do with him.
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Withdrawing from Afghanistan was a masterstroke.


And pick a Democrat, any Democrat, and blame them for all the ills of the World.

Same old, same old.


And the orange clown was a hero clown, for sure.

And Biden is too old, but at least not an old clown.


Such is the entertainment that is media driven politics.
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Withdrawing from Afghanistan was a masterstroke.
They fled the Taliban. The Taliban kicked them out on their terms and their schedule. Some masterstroke.

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No.

Afghanistan was just World politics playing out in a Third World backwater.

Just like Osama was once a U.S. ally against the Soviets, so now the Taliban are the allies.

The status of Afghan enemy, has now shifted to an even more extreme element of Islamic society.

So now we support the Taliban and use them to fight the holy war.

The U.S. public weren't going to support another Korea or Vietnam indefinitely.

Get out quick and befriend the Taliban....I'm guessing that was the political and military strategy, even before the Biden Administration actually came into Office.

Don't get deluded by all the Giant Killer and Veterans bullshit that we're bombarded with on social media, that's just propaganda.

Giant Killers and Veterans are only ever pawns in the political game.
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Let's be sure to note that RT stands for Russia Today.

RT (formerly Russia Today) is a Russian state-controlled international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.  RT has been described as a major propaganda outlet for the Russian government and its foreign policy.   Academics, fact-checkers, and news reporters (including some current and former RT reporters) have identified RT as a purveyor of disinformation and conspiracy theories.  In 2012, RT's editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan compared the channel to the Russian Ministry of Defence. Referring to the Russo-Georgian War, she stated that it was "waging an information war, and with the entire Western world"

So when we link to RT posts, we are distributing Russian propaganda  on behalf of the Russian government.  That doesn't mean that the information has to be inaccurate just that the source is a major distribution node for fake news and pro-Russian propoganda.
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just that the source is a major distribution node for fake news and pro-Russian propoganda.
Just like the DNC is a major source of disinformation.


Nearly three out of four of those Democrats polled who are following the story said they think it’s important prosecutors investigate Clinton for her role in the Russiagate scandal along with her top campaign advisers.
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So he's involved in 13/11?
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Just like the DNC is a major source of disinformation.
The DNC is a political party and as such inherently biased.  The DNC makes no claim to any journalistic objectivity.  I'm surprised GP wouldn't know that.

Nearly three out of four of those Democrats polled who are following the story said they think it’s important prosecutors investigate Clinton for her role in the Russiagate scandal along with her top campaign advisers.
Way off topic, here.

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Way off topic, here.

If you don't trust RT or the DNC, why are you even here?

Most journalists don't trust Psaki either.
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Way off topic, here.
If you don't trust RT or the DNC, why are you even here?
Nobody should trust a political operation to provide them their news- both sources are inherently biased. 

Most journalists don't trust Psaki either.
No good journalist trusts the WH spokesperson to give them anything but what they are required to give and that  with the best possible advantage for the President and his team, obviously.  

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Yes, the White House press briefing room hasn’t been quite the same since Donald Trump left office. No more presidential promotions of dubious covid-19 remedies. No more lectures to the gathered reporters from Trump’s press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, punctuated by a crisp snap of her binder and a dramatic exit from the podium.
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Nobody should trust a political operation to provide them their news- both sources are inherently biased.

That's all well and good, but RT simply broadcasted the footage of a press conference that actually took place. If you believe RT fabricated the press conference, I have some Q-Anon people that would like to talk to you. Just because people you like make themselves look bad doesn't always mean it's a conspiracy fabrication.

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 since Donald Trump left office.
I am pretty sure the Orangeman didn't try to take away Snowden's rights to speak against the government. Thanks for the circle-back though Bobby Fisher.

These days, any talk against the government is seditious and treason.
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The countries he leaked it to and that benefitted from it do more spying to their own citizens and infinitely more muzzling. So, where exactly are you coming from here?
That doesn't make America acting unethically, an acceptable behavior
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If you are far less unethical than others on your level, then you are relatively not the villain
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There are a few spelling errors in this post:

Psaki 
This is actually spelled correctly.

exposed 

The correct spelling is

“asked a series of inherently loaded and leading questions that inherently inject the conclusion and narrative the journalist wanted to push, rather than being inherently representative of anything Psaki actually said, much less meant”

As anti-speech tyrant

Again a little spelling error here. I think you incorrectly spelled: “a political spokesman who was expressing  disappointment that Russia - who had declared themselves neutral on the matter - were going out of their way to assist Snowden - and at worst was expressing dissatisfaction that Russia was assisting someone viewed as a criminal who leaked published secrets in gaining access to to individuals that may help in that endeavour.

Easy mistake there. Damn auto correct!

Journalists grill

This should be spelt “journalists Asked a series of loaded and leading questions intended to result in a gotcha soundbite for a narrative they want to push.”

Psaki

Correct!

on why a person accused of crimes should be muzzled.

Again, minor typo - I think this mean to say “about views of the government on a specific instance of Russia assisting what they view to be a national security threat” - I am basing this on the fact that nothing about the exchange was making any attempt to specify any generic policy or belief about how those who have committed crimes should be treated - other than the aforementioned not wanting someone leaking of state secrets to continue to leak and publicize those same state secrets. Which is clearly not the same.


If these weren’t “accidental typos”, then you’re really attempting to invent something to take issue at - clearly misrepresenting what she said in order to draw a preferred assumed  conclusion. 

Given that this was over 8 years ago, and in the intervening years, you or the prominent politician you profess to support have attempted to muzzle, or suggested at various times the support of muzzling in various forms: NFL football players who kneel during the national anthem, politicial opponents both of their party or others, peaceful protesters, anyone news organizations that write unflattering stories, people who work for him who leak to the press, and many others, it gives the clear and unavoidable conclusion that you are disinterested in free speech and are simply using it as a pretext to make a disingenuous attack that you likely don’t even believe.

While I have no doubt you will simply ignore everything I say - because you seem historically unwilling to defend the things you say - this type of weaponized hypocrisy in a wider group of political supporters is the perfection of true Orwellian doublethink, where you can be told and believe whatever your political overlords wish; and it will be accepted no matter how incoherent and contradictory with what you were supporting yesterday.
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Withdrawing from Afghanistan was a masterstroke.
They fled the Taliban. The Taliban kicked them out on their terms and their schedule. Some masterstroke.

Invade Afghanistan, remove al-Qaeda and Taliban   and then hand it back  to al-Qaeda and Taliban with a bonus of $billions worth  of functioning military equipment. . Indeed, some serious 'master stroke'. Whatever was Biden thinking? Have they got all those Americans left behind out of there yet?

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Have they got all those Americans left behind out of there yet?

The administration said they helped 900 leave after the withdrawal since they got caught with their pants down Aug 31.

Who knows how many didn't make it out. Reuters guesses thousands.

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Who knows how many didn't make it out. Reuters guesses thousands.

What is Biden doing about those he left behind?

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What is Biden doing about those he left behind?
We don't have reporters brave enough to ask.
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I think I see what you are saying. We already spent $2 trillion being in Afghanistan. If we stayed there for the next five years until the Chineses Yuan becomes the world currency, we could bankrupt the USA, and then Trump could buy it for $10 million.
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Thanks for your update on Drumph.
You can circle-back to your war room, Bobby Fisher.