I'm gonna ask the mods publicly in the forum.
Opinion of Mods
--> @bsh1 @David @Tejretics
This is about Raltar's vote on the debate:
*Here's the Problem*
Pro's sources "not supporting his arguments" according to voter:
1. The sun actually rises in the west (Los Angeles, USA).
2. The sun actually sets in the east (Tokyo, Japan).
3. I will also supply their global coordinates.
Con's source winning him points according to voter:
1. Observe the following video in the following link...you will see that 'Eastern Hemisphere' and 'Western Hemisphere' are purely invented by us, humans, as a social construct.
"Sources: Con. This is the only category where points to one side are clearly warranted."
"Pro both began and ended his argument with sources. However, it was never clear what those sources were meant to accomplish. Pro linked to a Google page showing the time of sunrise and sunset in those locations."
--See Pro's Sources #1 which are not overtly unclear--
"The Google page Pro linked to says nothing about direction and thus fails to support his argument."
--See Pro's Sources #1 with "his argument" written directly above it which is not the time, but the proof that the vent occurred--
"Conversely, when Con made any argument, he would provide a source (and often quote from that source) which explicitly said the same thing as the argument he was making. For example, when Con states that the Eastern and Western hemispheres are social constructs, he both links to and quotes from a source which says exactly that. As such, his sources clearly served the purpose of adding veracity to his argument, which cannot be said of the sources provided by Pro."
Moderators, I beg you to take a thorough look at what this voter is doing.
The source points that the voter claims shows "that the western and eastern hemisphere are social constructs" exactly as the debater puts it, shows a video of a huge crater discovered under greenland ice.
Look the voter is claiming source points for a source that DOES NOT show what the debater was arguing.
Please actually think about what's happening here.
****The voter must base their decision on the content of the debate****
Is stuff made up by the voter "content of the debate?"
****The voter must base their decision on the content of the debate****Is stuff made up by the voter "content of the debate?"
No. If the voter is putting their own spin or arguments into the RFD, then it's insufficient.
Please tell your fellow mods to notice this.