Fire death toll rises to 71 in California

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    ""With the confirmed death toll at 71 and the list of unaccounted for people more than 1,000, authorities in Northern California on Friday searched for those who perished"

    "communities of Magalia and Concow on Nov. 8, destroying 9,700 houses and 144 apartment buildings, authorities said."

    "blackened 222 square miles. It was 45 percent contained"


    And who to blame PG&E.
    "Pretty overwhelming' evidence against PG&E in deadly Paradise fire,"

    "evidence that PG&E was at fault for the deadliest wildfire in the state's history."

    The blaze, which has burned an estimated 135,000 acres and at least over 9,000 structures destroyed.. 







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    I guess ppl don't really care about wildfires. But ppl should bec it could happen to. Like all of the west coast and part of the mid- west and even parts of the east coast those wildfires could spread. And it wasn't even a random arsonist who did this lastest fires. No the real blame here is The Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) is an American investor-owned utility (IOU) that caused this horrible fire. That the big issue. And no one seem to care that these gas and electric company has too much power and really wont be hold accountable. Which is totally not fair for ppl who pay taxes... It really not... And ppl in other states who don't think this can happen to them are being naive ... Bec it surely can happen almost anywhere... 

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    --> @Nd24007
    I'd like you to use percentages here to understand your position.


    1) Percentage blame for wildfires on a population increase of 2 billion to 7.7 billion in 100 years.

    2) Percentage blame for wildfires on urban rent controls in a socialist state, forcing new construction to occur on the edges of woodlands.

    3) Percentage blame for wildfires due to said socialist state being too busy with things like the homeless problem to adequately do the necessary managed controlled fire burns to clear the forests of naturally occuring debris before it becomes uncontrollable.

    4) Percentage blame for wildfires for a .8 C change in global temperatures over the last 100 years.


    Please do not troll and type...

    1- 0%
    2- 0%
    3- 0%
    4- 100%

    Just give me your honest opinion on how much blame from these 4 real causes for these forest fires.

    Here are mine:

    1- 30%
    2- 15%
    3- 45%
    4- 10%



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    --> @Greyparrot
    Firstly i not here to toll and type..  I'm giving you real information not fake stuff. 

    These wildfires are real and deadly. The last three years in California alone there been one that surpasses the other in terms of the most deadest and most damaging... So please don't take light of these victims in these fires. It like when a powerful hurricane hit the east coast or a twister hit the midwest. All of them kills and we should pay respect to all the victims. 

    And you want my honest opinion, where we SHOULDN'T allow these big corporations get away with murder and causing so much damage. They will probably get a small fine at the end of things. But is that enough???? No it really isn't.. Ppl should be place in prison and they should be paying so so much more bec what they did and DIDN'T do.. The real problem on this case and other cases similar to this one these corporations ate not hold accountable...

    I will say the government is at fault too. But only a small fraction... There are others big fires that has occurred like in Washington, Arizona, Idaho, Montana, Colorado. And other big country such as Greece a few months ago... 

    Your population theory is also should be counted for everything else not just the wildfires. But for other natural disasters and non natural.. 


    The whole point of this thread is to shred some light on who is responsible for these fires and they should be hold accountable to the fullest. Meaning jail times for some and pay billions and billions for the damaged and for the victims. But unfortunately that wont happen they will be no jail times for anyone and no billions and billions in fines. The only fine they will get is a small one and they will have ppl who pay taxes cover it.. THIS isnt right. Do you think this is right?







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    --> @Nd24007
    I'd like to see your list of percentages.
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    PG and E didn't pile up tons of flammable driftwood in the forest, nor did it force people to build houses on the forest's edge.

    I want to see your percentages on those 4 things which directly cause the pileup of flammable wood and also cause people to live near said flammable wood.
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    My list is the corporations such as PG&E is 60% at fault.
    The wind and the dry conditions are 35%
    The other 5% is what you mention "forcing new construction to occur on the edges of woodlands."
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    Please note it only for this case im rather referring too.
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    Okay, so you give a full 60% to the person that lights the match and 40% blame to the forces that put flammable wood and people in proximity of each other.

    I'm sure that logic and reasoning will certainly help prevent the next forest fire massacre... lulz.



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    I still want to see your 1, 2, 3, 4 breakdown in percentages blaming the forces that built the bomb of dry wood and the forces that put people next to this bomb, regardless who set it off.

    1) Percentage blame for wildfires on a population increase of 2 billion to 7.7 billion in 100 years.

    2) Percentage blame for wildfires on urban rent controls in a socialist state, forcing new construction to occur on the edges of woodlands.

    3) Percentage blame for wildfires due to said socialist state being too busy with things like the homeless problem to adequately do the necessary managed controlled fire burns to clear the forests of naturally occuring debris before it becomes uncontrollable.

    4) Percentage blame for wildfires for a .8 C change in global temperatures over the last 100 years.