Thought Terminating Cliches

We see this again in the J6 hearings where Kevin McCarthy planted at least one poison pill in his selections and then used the rejection of that pill to pull everyone out and claim this is a purely partisan committee. So now every witness who testifies, every video produced, every revelation can now be dismissed as a product of pure partisanship. Right wing networks do not even cover it, using this as an excuse.

So now every witness who testifies, every video produced, every revelation can now be dismissed as a product of pure partisanship.

Right wing networks do not even cover it, using this as an excuse.

The most incredible thing to me is that literally Trump's entire defense rests on him being a narcissistic psychopath

a political witch-hunt.

If Pelosi had allowed Jordan and Banks on the committee, there wouldn’t be people crying out about the lack of proper cross-ex or illegitimacy.

The most incredible thing to me is that literally Trump's entire defense rests on him being a narcissistic psychopath

Probably because the J6 findings only proved that instead of criminal conduct.

The fact that Pelosi as the Speaker denied Jordan and Banks from the committee sets a bad precedent.

20 pages into the J6 thread and here one of you finally admits the point I was making the entire time.

Whether it was right or appropriate for Pelosi to deny Jordan and Banks from being on the committee is a different conversation and perhaps reasonable people can disagree.

The fact of the matter still remains that it was the republicans who chose to pull the test if their members and are now using the fact that they have none of their members on the committee as an excuse to disregard everything the committee has found.

The point I am making is that every time someone like yourself refuses to acknowledge the actual case being presented on the basis that the committee is partisan you are falling right into their manipulation tactics that could be seen a mile away. It's all about ensuring you stay on their side of the issue without ever having to actually think. Hence the term "thought terminating cliche".

and I'm also interested to see if anyone can think of examples of this on the left.

Without enabling the other side to be shown, you just have propaganda.

Again. Kevin McCarthy, as the leader of the Republican Caucus in the HoR, has the right to place any member of his caucus on the committee, whether that individual is a “partisan” or “moderate.”

Even during Benghazi, Democrats were allowed to have their picks. You can’t say you want to avoid partisanship…by being partisan.

The fact that Pelosi as the Speaker denied Jordan and Banks from the committee sets a bad precedent.

If Pelosi had allowed Jordan and Banks on the committee, there wouldn’t be people crying out about the lack of proper cross-ex or illegitimacy.

These people justify Trump's behavior and the security + political threats he created based on the fact that he is delusional and willfully rejects all the facts presented to him by everyone around him.

And Tim Pool, who is no Trump lover lol!.

That's false.  "Rights" don't come into it but McCarthy had zero power to appoint who he likes to the Select Committee because Republicans refused to participate in the creation of the committee. 

Pelosi had the power to appoint who she wanted to the Benghazi committee because she negotiated that power before the committee was ever assembled.  Democrats wanted an impartial 50/50 Commission like 9/11 and Warren Commission but McCarthy stupidly filibustered hoping that Americans would just forget about the first coup attempt on America. 

Pelosi offered to negotiate appointment power in exchange for bipartisan support for a Select Committee but McCarthy, fearing Trump's wrath, stupidly refused. 

This is false.  Democrats weren't "allowed" anything.   Pelosi negotiated her picks as a part of her decision to participate at all.  Boehner didn't want any committee chairpersons but Pelosi got him to agree to Cummings.  As it was, Pelosi lost most of the negotiation but we know now that was because Hillary wanted the hearings and a chance to testify on live TV (which she correctly understood would make the Republicans look foolish and  put an end to GOP hounding).

Jordan and Banks were active participants in the coup.  Jordan, in particular, was texting  Mark Meadows with legal arguments about how to toss a wrench into the the certification.  We know now that both coup plotters were 100% aware that there was no election fraud and were simply trying find plausible excuses for making Trump President for life.

The "bad precedent" would be allowing members of the conspiracy to sit in on the investigation.  For the same reason we didn't allow Derek Chauvin to investigate the George Floyd's murder, we don't allow Banks and Jordan to investigate their crimes against Democracy.

These people justify Trump's behavior and the security + political threats he created based on the fact that he is delusional and willfully rejects all the facts presented to him by everyone around him. How crazy is that lol.

we've never had a President giving direct orders and just openly being ignored collectively by hundreds of staff.

They are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Try again. To this day there has been no indictment again either of the two. Nor has there been an ethics investigation by the House of Representatives. Weird huh.

I never said Pelosi didn’t have the right to reject McCarthy’s appointees. Strawman.

Nice red herring. Show me text where Pelosi explicitly said she’d allow anyone McCarthy chooses on the Committee. I will wait.

They are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Try again.

targets of criminal investigations investigating themselves

It's nice to know only a small minority of Americans care about the partisan theatre and have finally told politicians to kindly fuck off when they patronizingly tell voters what they are SUPPOSSED to care about.

False.  You said McCarthy had the right to appoint whomever he likes.

POST#2: "Kevin McCarthy, as the leader of the Republican Caucus in the HoR, has the right to place any member of his caucus on the committee, whether that individual is a “partisan” or “moderate.”

McCarthy had no rights because fear of Trump prevented him from negotiating any investigation, however reasonable.

"In the aftermath of the 2021 United States Capitol attack, the proposal to form a bicameral commission failed due to a filibuster from Republicans in the Senate. In late May, when it had become apparent that the filibuster would not be overcome, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated that she would appoint a select committee to investigate the events as a fallback option."

You concede that the Benghazi Committee was not impartial.

Red herring yourself.  I said Pelosi offered to negotiate.  Like Benghazi, McCarthy was never going to get to appoint anyone and certainly no Congressman who actively participated in the crimes under investigation.

So now you've contradicted yourself regarding McCarthy's "right to appoint"  You now agree that McCarthy had no rights Pelosi was bound to respect in terms of appointment to the Jan 6 committee and that Pelosi had every right to exclude targets of the investigation from the investigation itself .  Pelosi negotiated her picks in exchange for participation in the Benghazi show trials.

We agree that McCarthy held exclusive appointment power then as Pelosi holds exclusive appointment power now- which destroys any of those claims of official illegitimacy Tucker told you to believe.

It is not only insanely illegal, it is sedition punishable by twenty years in prison.  Jordan and Banks knew for a fact that Biden was the properly elected President and actively conspired with Trump's men to subvert the Constitution of the US and incite a rebellion to deny the Constitutionally mandated transfer of power.  The ONLY way to prevent future coup attempts is to put these conspirators in jail for a very long time.

So you have no problem with the targets of criminal investigations investigating themselves... classic corruption. 

Like Paxton's corrupt use of his AG's office to illegally delay his trials for seven years after indictment.