Religious Liberty Task Force

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    "The task force will help the department fully implement our religious liberty guidance by ensuring that all Justice Department components are upholding that guidance in the cases they bring and defend, the arguments they make in court, the policies and regulations they adopt and how we conduct our operations," Sessions said. "That includes making sure that our employees know their duties to accommodate people of faith."Sessions cited "a dangerous movement" aimed toward stripping away the First Amendment right to freedom of religion as a basis for forming the new task force."A dangerous movement, undetected by many, is now challenging and eroding our great tradition of religious freedom," Sessions said in his speech. "There can be no doubt. This is no little matter. It must be confronted and defeated."


    I am a strong advocate for religious freedom, but I can't help but hear "religious privilege" when I hear the words in this context.
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    I am a strong advocate for religious freedom,.....
    As long as the religion is not Christianity.

    but I can't help but hear "religious privilege" when I hear the words in this context.
    Yeah. Was the task force to defend Islamic freedom, you would be all for it.
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    The obsession with Islam from some people is staggering.
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    The obsession with Islam from some people is staggering.
    With the peaceful believers of Islam bombing and stabbing them in the streets, one wonders why.



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    ""A dangerous movement, undetected by many" - Jeff Sessions

    Did Sessions just admit he's a conspiracy theorist?
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    Would that be surprising from a member of the Trump administration?
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    It would be ironic given that has been all the claim against him.
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    Yeah. Was the task force to defend Islamic freedom, you would be all for it.
    The reception would definitely have been very different across demographics if the religious rights of Muslims had been specified. But I took protecting "people of faith" to include people of all religions.

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    But Sessions is the Attorney General. He must be a terrible lawyer.

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    But I took protecting "people of faith" to include people of all religions.
    Yeah, you did.




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    Yeah, you did.
    Lol, granted. But I can understand why others might jump the gun. Sessions is the guy who tried to defend U.S. policy by reading from the Bible. During a public address where he was speaking as the Attorney General of the United States, not in private among friends or colleagues.
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    But I can understand why others might jump the gun. 
    I can't. God is on our money. Our Presidents take their oath on a holy book. Our pledge mentions God. How is it wrong or surprising what Sessions did?

    Separation of church and state does not mean separation from church. If we don't stand up to this attitude, innocuous things like wearing a crucifix will be against the law......wait.....

    It already is in some places.
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    I wish I was one of those atheists who is passionate enough to rail away that God should not be on our money and our presidents should not swear on the Bible, but I just don't give a shit about those things. Do I think they are out of line with separation of church and state, yes. Are they threatening my liberties or affecting my life, no.

    I will say that those examples, and in general the argument that America has always been a Christian nation, seem to demonstrate how unnecessary this task force is, and how questionable it is to assert that religion is a special victim of oppression in America.

    I'm not surprised by what Sessions did, btw. But imagine that he had defended U.S. policy by quoting a different religion's holy text. Better yet, imagine it was a democratic Attorney General who had quoted a different religion's holy text.
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    Seven different levels of burning hell would have broken loose.
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    As long as the religion is not Christianity. [...] Was the task force to defend Islamic freedom, you would be all for it.
    A religion (any religion) being favored by the government eventually diminishes religious freedom for everyone.  

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    A religion (any religion) being favored by the government eventually diminishes religious freedom for everyone.  
    We know what liberals say, we know what liberals do, and we see the discrepancy.
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    A religion (any religion) being favored by the government eventually diminishes religious freedom for everyone.  
    We know what liberals say, we know what liberals do, and we see the discrepancy.
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    We know what liberals say, we know what liberals do, and we see the discrepancy.
    Please keep your comments relevant to the OP.


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    You and I aren't strangers.

    First, I will keep my comments relevant to me.
    Second, I will keep my comments relevant to what you say. You said,  "A religion (any religion) being favored by the government eventually diminishes religious freedom for everyone."

    This is one of the nice things liberals say that mean nothing to what they do. What I said was relevant to what you said.
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    This is one of the nice things liberals say that mean nothing to what they do. What I said was relevant to what you said.
    Well, I'm not a liberal and this position isn't exclusive to progressives.  Did you have anything meaningful to add to this topic?

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    I was having a convo with Castin when you butted in. The actual question is, "Do you have anything meaningful to add to this topic?"
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    I'll take that as a "no". 
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    Take it however you like. It's obvious your fantasy life is more real to you than reality.
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     Take it however you like.

    I do not need your permission, but, thanks all the same!

    It's obvious your fantasy life is more real to you than reality.

    Speaking of fantasy, I made no comment on the conversation between you and Castin. 

    I think we've gone off the rails completely here, so until were back on track I see no reason to continue, Ethan.

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    You've spelled out exactly my concerns. It is concerning more people dont see this as a problem and recognize it as a potential attack on religious freedom.