Immigrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard

Author: IwantRooseveltagain

Posts

Total: 160
Topic's author
#1
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,231
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
MAGA REPUBLICAN Governor Ron DeSantis has taken the bizarre step of flying immigrants from San Antonio to Massachusetts and videotaped the scene for an exclusive on FOX News.

The approximately 50 migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard represent the latest example of a vile stunt in which GOP governors bus migrants to Democratic strongholds to protest President Biden’s border policies. Just as has happened elsewhere, island officials were surprised but are welcoming the new arrivals.

To respond, Biden should direct the Treasury Secretary to delay social security checks and Medicare benefits to people living in Florida and Texas because those folks don’t support big government socialism. So let’s fuck with them and laugh and laugh as they suffer in their poverty.
#2
thett3
thett3's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 2,005
3
2
7
thett3's avatar
thett3
3
2
7
If this account isn’t a troll he’s just a complete psycho seething with near genocidal hatred of the folks across the aisle lol
#3
thett3
thett3's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 2,005
3
2
7
thett3's avatar
thett3
3
2
7
“Let’s starve millions of seniors to death and deny them medical care because a rich liberal vacation spot had to deal with 0.001% of what border states have had to deal with for the last year and a half”
Topic's author
#4
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,231
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@thett3
If this account isn’t a troll he’s just a complete psycho seething with near genocidal hatred of the folks across the aisle lol
Is that what you consider yourself - folks across the isle? DeSantis and supporters are MAGA whack jobs. They need to be vanquished like the Bath Party in Iraq.

I’m trying to give you idiots information that you are never going to see in your bubble world of FOX News and OAN. Because you’re dummies.

Topic's author
#5
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,231
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@thett3
Let’s starve millions of seniors to death and deny them medical care because a rich liberal vacation spot had to deal with 0.001% of what border states have had to deal with for the last year and a half”
Just suggesting Democrats play the same kind of hateful crass politics that Republicans seem to appreciate and approve of.

And they won’t starve, they can get help from their churches. They’ll just suffer a little indignation.

#6
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 23,144
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@thett3
You have to wonder if he isn't being paid by Trump to make the GOP look good...
#7
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 23,144
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@thett3
I'll bet you this is an Alex Stein sock account.
#8
thett3
thett3's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 2,005
3
2
7
thett3's avatar
thett3
3
2
7
-->
@Greyparrot
Alex Stein seems like a massive asshole lol. I only know of him from a few videos where he’s screaming at congressmen/women while panting like he just ran a 5k and a YouTube debate where he showed up drunk and derailed the whole thing 
#9
Ramshutu
Ramshutu's avatar
Debates: 43
Posts: 2,768
6
9
10
Ramshutu's avatar
Ramshutu
6
9
10
-->
@thett3
If this account isn’t a troll he’s just a complete psycho seething with near genocidal hatred of the folks across the aisle lol
Merely the ying to GP’s yang. Perhaps they will annihilate each other in burst of pure trollery
#10
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 23,144
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@thett3
Yah he is just another shock jock.
Topic's author
#11
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,231
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
You guys are such idiots. Trump is the ultimate bombastic shock jock and you love the guy. So you don’t object to bombast and insults - you object to being insulted by a Democrat. You have zero standing to object to aggressive in your face language. Ignorance is the cornerstone of the MAGA movement.

It’s the same with Jews and blacks. MAGA REPUBLICANS hate Jews and blacks in general but when they speak favorably of Trump, like Candace Owens or Diamond and Silk, then they are welcome to speak.
#12
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 23,144
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@thett3
“Let’s starve millions of seniors to death and deny them medical care because a rich liberal vacation spot had to deal with 0.001% of what border states have had to deal with for the last year and a half”

I still don't get the connection between dumping a few illegal invaders into blue states with support for big government social spending
#13
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 12,895
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@Greyparrot
Lmao, when the Biden administration does it, it’s fine. But when Abbott and DeSantis do it, OH MY GOD. I’ll be so happy to vote for Abbott over Robert in November
#14
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 23,144
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@ILikePie5
The OP lives in Massachusetts. He probably has a fatal case of the NIMBY.

#15
oromagi
oromagi's avatar
Debates: 117
Posts: 8,689
8
10
11
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
8
10
11
Now we are learning that DeSantis had to import his refugees from Texas.  Why?

and he spent $615,000 in taxpayer's funds to send 50 people to Martha's Vineyard.  Even if tickets cost $2000 per refugee that still leaves me wondering what pocket he put the remaining half a million dollars into... emergency election funds?  
#16
Vader
Vader's avatar
Debates: 30
Posts: 14,755
5
8
11
Vader's avatar
Vader
5
8
11
-->
@IwantRooseveltagain
It’s the same with Jews and blacks. MAGA REPUBLICANS hate Jews and blacks in general but when they speak favorably of Trump, like Candace Owens or Diamond and Silk, then they are welcome to speak.
The opposite speaks for itself, if a black man has views that are not of the Liberal agenda, the left excommunicates them WORSE than anyone on the MAGA side


Topic's author
#17
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,231
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@Vader
The opposite speaks for itself, if a black man has views that are not of the Liberal agenda, the left excommunicates them WORSE than anyone on the MAGA side
We definitely are puzzled by black conservatives or worse, Trump supporters. Why would a black man support a party that says George Floyd or Travon Martin deserved to die? Why would a black man support a party that doesn’t even believe systemic racism exists in this country. A party that does everything they can to prevent blacks from voting. A party that believes Barrack Obama isn’t a US citizen. A party that deliberately under funds black neighborhoods drinking water systems. A Party that’s thinks crack cocaine is worse than powder cocaine because blacks use it.

#18
thett3
thett3's avatar
Debates: 2
Posts: 2,005
3
2
7
thett3's avatar
thett3
3
2
7
-->
@Vader
The opposite speaks for itself, if a black man has views that are not of the Liberal agenda, the left excommunicates them WORSE than anyone on the MAGA side
When Roe v. Wade was overturned virtually all of the hate from liberals on my social media was directed towards Clarence Thomas and to a lesser extent Amy Coney Barret, even though Alito was the one who wrote the opinion 

Anecdata but I am pretty sure it's representative 
#19
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 23,144
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@ILikePie5
Is this you Pie?
#20
Double_R
Double_R's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 4,321
3
2
5
Double_R's avatar
Double_R
3
2
5
-->
@Vader
The opposite speaks for itself, if a black man has views that are not of the Liberal agenda, the left excommunicates them WORSE than anyone on the MAGA side
Nonsense. At best, you can say they are excommunicated just as bad, but I would still disagree with that.

The context here is important though, as you are implying the left is “more wrong”.  

Politics for black people is a matter of real life, as the black community suffers far worse than any other community in every measurable indicator of societal health. Whatever your attitude towards the cause, the effect is an objective fact. So when one “defects”, there is a real world implication to that.

Politics for the MAGA crowd is all about owning the libs in a sick form of team sport. That’s why flying human beings across the country and dropping them off in liberal areas despite the exorbitant costs to this crowd is a brilliant move and a reason to go out and vote for those behind it.

One of Bill Maher’s guests I think last week put it best when he pointed out that the left votes based on what impacts them, the right votes on what offends them. I’ve never heard the stark difference between the two sides made so succinctly.
#21
Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,740
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
-->
@IwantRooseveltagain
--> @SupaDudz
The opposite speaks for itself, if a black man has views that are not of the Liberal agenda, the left excommunicates them WORSE than anyone on the MAGA side
We definitely are puzzled by black conservatives or worse, Trump supporters. Why would a black man support a party that says George Floyd or Travon Martin deserved to die? Why would a black man support a party that doesn’t even believe systemic racism exists in this country. A party that does everything they can to prevent blacks from voting. A party that believes Barrack Obama isn’t a US citizen. A party that deliberately under funds black neighborhoods drinking water systems. A Party that’s thinks crack cocaine is worse than powder cocaine because blacks use it.
Blacks support Trump and the Conservative party because they see advantages agreeing with white people and even marrying  them as in Clarence Thomas who married a white woman and was nominated to the supreme court.
But the majority of blacks see the conservatives as a party that deliberately under funds black neighborhoods drinking water systems. A Party that’s thinks crack cocaine is worse than powder cocaine because blacks use it.

Bill Cosby raped 60 white women but was found not guilty because they were not politically motivated. Blacks staying out of politics might be their solution.
#22
Greyparrot
Greyparrot's avatar
Debates: 4
Posts: 23,144
3
4
10
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
3
4
10
-->
@Double_R
One of Bill Maher’s guests I think last week put it best when he pointed out that the left votes based on what impacts them, the right votes on what offends them. I’ve never heard the stark difference between the two sides made so succinctly.

The entire 2020 election was built on Orangemanbad offense. 

If you ask any Democrat in 2022 how the Economy has impacted them, they will lie and say it is fine just so they don't get labeled as one of those "magas"
#23
Lemming
Lemming's avatar
Debates: 6
Posts: 3,214
4
4
10
Lemming's avatar
Lemming
4
4
10
-->
@oromagi
@IwantRooseveltagain
I 'do think it's a bit in bad taste, myself,
But is illegal immigration something to be 'encouraged?

Seems to me that such 'is the Lefts position.

Trump flubbed the border a fair bit, separating families, poor living conditions, 'but, a secure border 'is something I think 'should be valued.

I can only guess why he used immigrants from Texas, rather than Florida,
Perhaps he was in contact with some Texas politician, who suggested such as a political move, and it was convenient.

"The Fiscal Year 2022-23 Budget creates a $12 million program within the
Florida Department of Transportation to facilitate the transport of
unauthorized aliens out of Florida," reads the document available on DeSantis' official website under the voice "Immigration."

I suppose one 'might argue the funds were misused as they were in Texas rather than Florida,
I don't know how much he spent on the tickets though.

. . .

Flying, bussing, unwanted individuals out of cities, states is not a new action,
People in locations seem to consider it at times, worth the cost of a ticket.

Being of one mind, cooperation, shared ideals, identifiable,
Seems to me necessary for a group,

Such is easy in a family, a neighborhood, a village,
Or 'ought be,
But seems to me people have 'lost that identity,
Now as travel is so easy, as values, autonomy, loyalty, has bled into one another and lost meaning.

Instead we have this idea of belonging to a 'nation, and it is vast, 'vast.

Individuals, groups, unable to speak for their 'identity, sovereignty, responsibilities,

There's value in moving between locations easy,
But what 'value is their in the locations identity or claims?

Just rambling.
#24
Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,740
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
-->
@Lemming
There's value in moving between locations easy,
But what 'value is their in the locations identity or claims?

Just rambling.
If the policy is to provide flights to sanctuary states then the refugees should be made aware and allowed to pick the state of choice. This will reduce all the confusion the current system suffers from.

#25
Lemming
Lemming's avatar
Debates: 6
Posts: 3,214
4
4
10
Lemming's avatar
Lemming
4
4
10
-->
@Shila
That could be a more humane method, than randomly sending them without any choice of their own, or knowledge of where they're going.

Though that part of my post was more of my musing on 'legal residents of cities and states.
Topic's author
#26
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,231
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@Lemming
But is illegal immigration something to be 'encouraged?

Seems to me that such 'is the Lefts position.

This country has a long history of discriminating against certain ethnic groups when it comes to immigration policy. The Chinese exclusion Act, Operation Wetback, favoring immigrants who already had family here to favor Europeans, offering special consideration for people sponsored by big business or who have money.

The left wants to process people into the country at a higher rate without requiring a certain level of wealth to come here. Obviously at a time when businesses say they can’t find enough workers this would be a good time to open the doors to immigrants. That said, refugees from crime, hate, hunger and the like is a different consideration and those people need to be treated with humanity.
#27
Shila
Shila's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 2,740
3
3
5
Shila's avatar
Shila
3
3
5
-->
@Lemming
--> @Shila
That could be a more humane method, than randomly sending them without any choice of their own, or knowledge of where they're going.

Though that part of my post was more of my musing on 'legal residents of cities and states
There should be a sense of urgency relocating refugees. First impressions count.

Topic's author
#28
IwantRooseveltagain
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 6,231
3
3
6
IwantRooseveltagain's avatar
IwantRooseveltagain
3
3
6
-->
@Lemming
but, a secure border 'is something I think 'should be valued.
Of course, but It’s a lie to say Democrats want “open borders”. We want people processed, we want a system that is more welcoming and less racist. And again, refugees shouldn’t be confused with immigrants. That is a different situation with different obligations and laws.

#29
TWS1405
TWS1405's avatar
Debates: 0
Posts: 1,048
3
4
7
TWS1405's avatar
TWS1405
3
4
7
-->
@thett3
He's a troll, for sure. Without question or doubt.
#30
Lemming
Lemming's avatar
Debates: 6
Posts: 3,214
4
4
10
Lemming's avatar
Lemming
4
4
10
-->
@IwantRooseveltagain
Bah, the Left wants to import the poorest of the poor to work for dog food.
(Not really, but it's how I feel about their position)

Bringing poor people to work the minimum wage jobs forever, 'won't work,
Eventually we will reach a limit on our population,
Nor should we encourage the 'existence of minimum wage jobs,

If there weren't more people willing to work for the minimum, then profits might be better divided between the workers and the owners.

. . .

Whether it was an illegal immigrant caravan from Britain or Venezuela,
I would 'want people's backgrounds checked,
I would want our right to secure borders not violated.

. . .

There's 'always been war, poor, hungry in the 'world,
The Left can volunteer at a soup kitchen, or donate their money to the less fortunate if they like,
Why must I be dragged into other's crusades?