Iowa is becoming more conservative. It’s also becoming less educated. Those two things go together

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“Iowa already has the 10th-worst “brain drain” in the country, according to an analysis of federal data by economists at the University of North Carolina, the W.E. Upjohn Institute, the University of Michigan and the University of Chicago, which shows the percentage difference between the number of college graduates Iowa produces versus the number of college graduates living in the state at minus-34 points”


As Iowa wack jobs push back against equal rights and liberal policies, (the state legislature recently tried to ban same sex marriage) educated people and young people leave the state.
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Liberals are more naive and ignorant of their surroundings and the "real world" than conservatives. 

Conservatives are more aware of their surroundings and prepare for the worst while expecting the best. 
Their philosophy, better to have and not need than need and not have. Liberals never have. They're basically sheep being led to the slaughter because they don't fear what they cannot see or perceive in the real world.



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Education =/= smart
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Indoctrinated =/= educated
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That BusinessInsider article makes conservatives look like dummies. Thanks for the proof LCpl!

Being scared can make you more conservative. Decades of research have shown that people get more conservative when they feel threatened and afraid.

On the other hand, feeling safe and endowed with strength might make you lean a little more liberal than you otherwise would.

People embrace political conservatism (at least in part) because it serves to reduce fear, anxiety, and uncertainty; to avoid change, disruption, and ambiguity; and to explain, order, and justify inequality among groups and individuals," the researchers said. Pussies

“conservative readers tended to say they'd rather visit Times Square than the Metropolitan Museum of Art” Lol!

“ A Pew Research Center study from 2014 showed that liberals were more likely than social conservatives to describe themselves as compassionate, trusting, upbeat, and optimistic, while conservatives were more likely to say they were people of honor, duty, religion, and proud to be American”
. - Oh brother. Trump is a Draft Dodger who mocks religious people. But he’s a bigot so they love him anyway!



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Trumpers tend to be tattooed, bearded, wear a ball cap and drive a pickup truck. These guys have status anxiety and fear being unable to do as well as their parents did. They don’t understand why the country doesn’t need them so much anymore and why they can’t afford to buy a home.

Look at all those white faces in the crowd on January 6. So sad.

Looking back at the statistics,  the people involved on Jan. 6, the most notable is how many insurrectionists came from counties that lost their white, non-Hispanic population.
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It definitely equals greater earning power
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Indoctrinated =/= educated
Being kissed by your mother doesn’t mean you’re not a virgin.

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Only 1 out of 4 arrested for January 6 had a college degree. 35% of Americans 25 and older have a bachelor’s degree.
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You're not conservative, and your less educated. 

What does that say about your political ideology's?
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At any rate, it's pretty easy to tell  that TWS never got to the part in school where they teach you how to use sources to back your claim.
Liberals are more naive and ignorant of their surroundings and the "real world" than conservatives. 
Conservatives are more aware of their surroundings and prepare for the worst while expecting the best. 
The words NAIVE, IGNORANT, SURROUNDING do not appear in either article.  This article mostly says the opposite of TWS's claim.
TWS is fraudulently pretending that these sources back his entirely anti-scientific, faith-based claim because he can't find sources that actually do back the claim. 
There is no question that Liberals are better at abstract thinking, innovation, insight, empathetic thinking, critical analysis than the concrete thinkers who still think the bible is literal and that race is meaningful.   86% of artists, musicians, actors are liberal because careful observation of one's surroundings and translating observation into art that resonates is so liberal a quality that it is called a "liberal art."


Perhaps, but it also true that Democrats are younger, more moderate and better educated than GOP, unaffiliated voters, on non-voters.





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Education =/= smart

case in point
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Indoctrinated =/= educated
case in point
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The words NAIVE, IGNORANT, SURROUNDING do not appear in either article. 
No shit sherlock. They’re alternative adjectives aptly used to describe that which is being described in the article that doesn’t use those terms that mean the same thing that they’re describing without using those terms. 

This article mostly says the opposite of TWS's claim.
No, it doesn’t. 

Clearly you suffer greatly from a lack of requisite reading comprehension skills. 

Awesome projection though. 
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You're so thick,  you don't know when you're being called a blockhead.

Here are the 15 major points, all direct quotes from the article YOU submitted.  Please explain how any of these support "Conservatives are more aware of their surroundings and prepare for the worst while expecting the best. "

I contend that none of these support your phony claim and at least one of these contradicts your claim outright

  • The following are of the 15 biggest psychological differences academics have found between liberals and conservatives around the globe.
  1. Being scared can make you more conservative.
    1. A 2003 review of research conducted in five countries looked at 22 separate tests of the hypothesis that fear fuels conservative viewpoints and found it was universally true.
  2. A conservative brain is more active in different areas than a liberal one.
    1. This aligns with the idea that feeling afraid makes people lean more to the right. 
  3. On the other hand, feeling safe and endowed with strength might make you lean a little more liberal than you otherwise would.
    1. The authors of that study said their results suggest that socially conservative views are driven, at least in part, by people's need to feel safe and secure.
  4. Liberals are less squeamish about looking at yucky stuff like vomit, feces, and blood.
    1. But in our modern world, some research suggests this kind of aversion toward "impure" pathogens may also impact how people see other people who aren't like them, including social "out-groups" like immigrants or foreigners.
  5. Conservatives tend to display more ordered thinking patterns, whereas liberals have more "aha" moments.
    1. it showed that liberal brains had a tendency to reorganize their thoughts in more flexible ways, while the conservatives tended to take a more step-by-step approach
    2. Conservatives have more structured and persistent cognitive styles," she said in a statement.
  6. Liberals tend to follow the wandering gaze of others more often, while conservative eyes stay more focused on the original subject they're looking at.
    1. "We did not expect conservatives to be completely immune to these cues," lead author Michael Dodd said when the study was released. 
      1. NOTE: this study suggest  the opposite of your claim that conservatives are more aware of surroundings
  7. Holding conservative views seems to make people more resistant to change and help them explain inequality.
    1. "People embrace political conservatism (at least in part) because it serves to reduce fear, anxiety, and uncertainty; to avoid change, disruption, and ambiguity; and to explain, order, and justify inequality among groups and individuals," the researchers said. 
  8. Liberal and conservative tastes in music and art are different, too.
    1.  conservatives preferred more simple paintings, familiar music, and unambiguous texts and poems, while liberals enjoyed more cubist and abstract art.
    2. conservatives tend to avoid uncertainty and dislike ambiguity more than their liberal counterparts.
  9. Liberals are more likely to describe themselves as compassionate and optimistic, while conservatives are more likely to say they're people of honor and religion.
    1. liberals' top moral concerns tend to be about compassion and fairness, while conservatives are more concerned with loyalty, tradition, respect for authority, and purity.
  10. Conservatives believe they have more self-control.
    1. But the conservatives didn't always out-perform the liberals. When they were told that their free will might undermine their own self-control, they performed worse than their liberal peers.
  11. Liberals and conservatives extend feelings of compassion to different people.
    1. Conservatives self-report more parochialism in that they tend to expend their empathy toward more well-defined, closed social circles like the family whereas liberals self-report more universalism in that they expend their empathy toward more permeable, broader social circles, like the world as a whole
  12. Conservatives tend to report feeling greater meaning and a sense of purpose in life than liberals do.
    1. The study complied data on thousands of people in 16 different countries around the world over four decades, and found that conservatives, overall, reported feeling greater meaning and purpose in life. 
  13. Research also suggests shared values likely matter more than shared politics when it comes to who we vote for.
    1. Trump supporters ... seek power over others, are motivated by wealth accumulation, and prefer conformity, hierarchy, and clear-cut rules for behavior," the authors wrote in their paper, published online in the journal Personality and Individual Differences in February 2018
  14. One British study found that voters who were aggressive, angry kids were more likely to distrust the government and lean liberal as adults.
    1. Some, but not all, of this link was explained by educational attainment and socioeconomic status in adulthood." 
  15. Both conservatives and liberals think they're always being fair.
    1. However, the findings suggested that while liberals and conservatives may both think they are applying judgment equally, they each tend to judge members of their own ideology more favorably than others. 






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I find it funny the party of science and education still repeats the talking points from 3 years ago about the vaccine stopping the spread and being necessary for young healthy people.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxq78OUtB5I
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eh i should stop punching down at the sheep
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This article mostly says the opposite of TWS's claim.

Yes, I noticed that too. And this is a recurring theme by conservatives on this site. Their articles don’t say what they claim 
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You're not conservative, and your less educated. 
You’re in high school at a redneck school.

I graduated college in Massachusetts in 1987

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You’re in high school at a redneck school.
Nope, my school is very left leaning. 

I graduated college in Massachusetts in 1987
Education =/ I.Q.
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Probably should ask Mass for a refund :)
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I am going to agree with the ones that state that a college education does not mean you are smart.  All schools were made to indoctrinate it's pupils, whether it's conservative or liberal.  The problem is that society has pushed that a college degree means you are so smart when in reality, you can retain information.  Most of school is a parrot type of system.  They give their lesson, you regurgitate it for the test.

If IwantRoskies is referring to smarts, then he needs to figure on wisdom, the ability to use those smarts in its proper application (definition is mine).  Do a little research about the public education system and you will find social engineering all through it.

Colleges are just major money pumping machines, not a step to "higher" education.

Just because you have 50 college degrees in 35 fields, doesn't mean you are smart.  Just as much as only a high school education doesn't mean you are dumb.  Application of the education is key.  Also the desire to learn more is also key.
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The reported statistic is not even a worse graduation rate based on the number of people trying, they're not even applying (I assume). This implies a higher level of wisdom in Iowa seeing as universities at this moment are scams.
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Many of those same points are discussed at length in The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt (2012).
That book gave me more insight into the differences between conservatives and liberals without demeaning either.
liberals' top moral concerns tend to be about compassion and fairness, while conservatives are more concerned with loyalty, tradition, respect for authority, and purity.
That is one of the biggies. It helps to explain why conservatives appear to vote against their economic best interests. Their values, and the strengths thereof, differ from those of liberals.
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What are you on about? Why wouldn't "compassion and fairness" explain voting against one's interests just as well?
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You remind me of this classic link. Pretend you are Matt Damon talking down to Iwantcommunism


While a little dated because the internet is as free and better than a public library, the lesson is still the same.
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Now that you mention, it does. I hadn't thought about it that way, probably because my sources talk about it with respect to conservatism, whereas I don't hear anything about the reverse. Thank you for pointing that out.
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Nope, my school is very left leaning. 
No. You are undoubtedly from a rural, Christian weirdo state.

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Nope, my school is very left leaning. 
[IwantRooseveltagain] No. You are undoubtedly from a rural, Christian weirdo state.
Ladies and gentlemen, the great unifying spirit of the left-tribe.
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Remember the good ole days when redneck high school dropouts just sat around in their pickup trucks drinking RC Cola and eating moon pies?

Then FOX News came along and these idiots could “get informed” by women in low cut dresses and high heels instead of having to read a newspaper or watch Walter Cronkite.

Now these idiots think they are equipped to have an opinion on government and politics. And social media helps these idiots get together and spread the nonsense even further.