Texas Republicans are preparing to cheat in the next election

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“Texas Republicans wound down their regular legislative session Sunday by changing election policies for a single populous Democratic stronghold but not other parts of the state.
The measure gives the secretary of state under certain conditions the power to run elections in Harris County, home to Houston and 4.8 million residents. It follows a bill  approved days earlier that shifts the oversight of elections from its appointed elections administrator to the county clerk and county assessor.
Harris County officials at a news conference last week said they would bring a lawsuit challenging the measures as soon as Gov. Greg Abbott (R) signs them into law”

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Elections these days is about who cheats harder.
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"Stop the steal"
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Trump: “The radical Democrats have used ballot harvesting to cancel out your vote and walk away with elections that they never should have won. But I’m doing something huge to fight back,” he advised in a voter outreach released Sunday”
“Ballot Harvesting” is a bullshit term made up for idiots like you.

Our presidential campaign will launch our own Ballot Harvesting Fund in the states where the Left has been cheating the system. Please make a contribution to our brand new Ballot Harvesting Fund to harvest ballots in the states where we can, and beat the Democrats at their own game – for 1,500% impact,”
So it’s illegal, but Trump says he is going to do it too, in the “states where he can”

Trump is going to take those donations and use them to pay his legal bills. Because Republican voters are dummies

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“Ballot Harvesting” is a bullshit term made up for idiots like you.
All language is made up.

So it’s illegal, but Trump says he is going to do it too
Ballot harvesting is legal in most states. I believe that's what Trump is complaining about, but it's fair to play by the rules as they currently exist.
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"Stop the steal"
It would be serendipitous to have a twice elected....what's the word Hillary used? Twice illegitimate president.
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Elections these days is about who cheats harder.
Do you have any evidence at all that the democrats are engaged in any widespread effort to cheat?
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Thomas Hicks, commissioner of the independent and bipartisan U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) ( here ) ( www.eac.gov/about-the-useac ) said that the “actual incidence of voter fraud is relatively small and for the most part is unintentional.”
For example, after the 2020 election, a months’-long analysis by the AP found fewer than 475 cases of potential voter fraud in the six battleground states challenged by Trump (here). For context, there were over 3.3 million votes casted for the presidential run in Arizona alone, the state AP found had the highest number of potential fraud cases (198) ( here ). The AP also found no signs of a coordinated effort and reported that “virtually every case was based on an individual acting alone to cast additional ballots.”
Studies compiled by the Brennan Center ( here ) ( here ), which reviewed cases of voter fraud (prior to the 2020 general election), also found voter fraud is rare.
As another example, an analysis by Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola Law School and currently a White House Senior Policy Advisor for Democracy and Voting Rights ( here ) found 31 credible cases of voter impersonation between 2000 and 2014, out of a billion ballots ( here ).
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Do you have any evidence at all that the democrats are engaged in any widespread effort to cheat?
The word cheat is often bandied about on both sides to the point that evidence is largely irrelevant.
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So on others words; no you don't.

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It is. It's almost as bad as calling everyone a racist without evidence.

Well, until the defamation lawsuits catch up to you...
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So on other words; no you have no evidence for your original claim. Got it.
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Nope, neither party has evidence.
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Nope, neither party has evidence.
Bullshit. Trump tried to steal the 2020 election. He also cheated in 2016 with hush money payments that his lawyer went to jail for.

He colluded with the Russians. He said on television there is nothing wrong with getting help from foreign governments or foreigners. His team met with several Russians in Trump Tower seeking help with his election 

On TV he said Russia if you are listening please find Hillary’s missing emails. 

He tried to both bribe and coerce the Ukraine President to help with his reelection 

Several republican voters were convicted of voting twice for Trump

A Republican Congressman’s election in North Carolina was thrown out for cheating 



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Trump’s lies, as well as other Republicans, about election fraud without any evidence whatsoever was an attempt to undermine faith in our elections.

That was a blatant attempt to steal the election 
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Nope, neither party has evidence.
Funny how we started with the claim that both parties cheat to now asserting that there is no evidence of cheating.

Whether there is evidence of "either party" cheating however is really just a sematic game. If by cheating you're talking about nefarious characters conspiring behind the scenes to illegally and fraudulently sway the vote totals then Trump's phone call to Georgia aside (which is not nothing, btw), there's really no evidence of this in any wide spread sense.

If however we go with a more simple definition such as working to install the person who lost into office then it's not disputable that the republicans are guilty of this. Claiming there is no evidence there is absurd because they mostly did it all out in the open and are continuing their efforts.
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The word cheat is often bandied about on both sides to the point that evidence is largely irrelevant.
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Yes it absolutely is - That's the whole strategy. As long as republicans keep accusing democrats of doing the very thing they are guilty of, they get to hide behind people like you who come along and go "duh it's just politicians on both sides squabbling". Logic and evidence be damned.

It clearly works.
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Nope, neither party has evidence.
Bullshit. Trump tried to steal the 2020 election. He also cheated in 2016 with hush money payments that his lawyer went to jail for.

He colluded with the Russians. He said on television there is nothing wrong with getting help from foreign governments or foreigners. His team met with several Russians in Trump Tower seeking help with his election 

On TV he said Russia if you are listening please find Hillary’s missing emails. 

He tried to both bribe and coerce the Ukraine President to help with his reelection 

Several republican voters were convicted of voting twice for Trump

A Republican Congressman’s election in North Carolina was thrown out for cheating 
Imagine living in a world wherein a person thinks a series of bare assertions counts as "evidence".

This isn't even a Republican vs. Democrat thing. I've seen plenty of both post well-sourced arguments.

This is just IwantRooseveltagain (a.k.a fanchick) being a useless pile of manure. 
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That's also the story of chicken little.