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Topic

everything was once made perfect

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With 4 votes and 12 points ahead, the winner is ...

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Religion
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There is proof that God made everything perfect.Then over time without gods influence. Things slightly became flawed.

Example

rats body clock run on a 23.5 scheduled on average.Humans body clock runs on a 24.5 scheduled.

It appears that all animals clocks were perfectly set to 24 hours. But over time it got slightly off.Without gods influence
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/sep/18/body-clock-jet-lag

The moon is in the sky for 12 hours and the sun is out for around 12 hours.

it is like the body clocks sometimes the moon is out for 12 hours and 5 minutes and the sun is out for 11 hours and 55 minutes.This is not actual numbers unlike the body clocks
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2574/moon-12-hours-sun-12-hours

It appears to have been set perfectly but over time it slightly reared off course

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Was "Day" as described in Genesis truly an exact 24 hours? proof is lacking, considering that the Hebrew word used in ancient texts we have is yom, which can imply an earth day, or a period of much longer duration.
Was man [Adam] created perfect? Not as he was tempted, and succumbed to temptation, and not if his mortal life was intended to die.
Were animals created perfect? No, they, too, were created to die.
Was creation, itself, perfect? Not by the results. Perfection is not a beginning state; it is achieved.

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--> @Exile

Oddly, I find con's R1 argument very convincing. "Due to outside circumstances" implies something was not made to be perfect.

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Interesting argument

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Instigator

The reason why we have clocks is because we are machines