Instigator / Con
16
1500
rating
5
debates
50.0%
won
Topic
#204

The Colin Kaepernick Movement

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
3
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
3
3
Better conduct
3
3

After 3 votes and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

AIRhino
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
13
1450
rating
10
debates
30.0%
won
Description

"It makes no sense on a variety of levels and is an insult to the troops that died to defend that flag and that anthem."

-Ben Shapiro
This guy is amazing and I love his work and what he's doing for this country.

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@Alec

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>Reported Vote: Alec // Mod action: Removed

>Points Awarded: 3 points to Con for arguments, 2 points to Pro for sources

>Reason for Decision: Pro looked to be giving up near the end of the debate. His arguments were shorter and he did not cite at the end. He failed to counter most of the votes made by Con. Pro used a .edu source whereas Con did not. I hope this vote does not get deleted by bsh1 or anyone else because I'm trying not to make it a troll vote.

>Reason for Mod Action: I feel for the voter, because I understand how frustrating it is to have one's votes removed, and I don't feel that they are not trying to troll. That said, the vote remains insufficient. The voter fails to "survey specific arguments and counterarguments from both sides which impacted their voting decision" and fails to weigh the arguments in the debate. To awards sources points, the voter must "explain how the sources impacted the debate, directly assessing the strength of at least one source." The voter fails to do this.
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In fact, a few of those crimes, you don't even have to say per capita.

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@Cowscreen

The reason more black people per capita are dying at the hands of the police is because black people commit more crime per capita than white people. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-21

The USA protects freedom worldwide with our strong military. If it wasn't for the USA, 180 million South Koreans and Japanese would be living under communist rule.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Not everyone has a good reason to be proud of America, it's important to view this countries history from other perspectives, not just from the winners of war.

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@Cowscreen

no, it is also a symbol for pride in America, but mostly veterans because the song is written about the war and how we got our freedom

and people are now disrespecting that like nothing, and u know it

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@Cowscreen

no, it is also a symbol for pride in America, but mostly veterans because the song is written about the war and how we got our freedom

and people are now disrespecting that like nothing, and u know it

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Is the American flag only a symbol for dead veterans? I want to know what the symbol is for the dead slaves who laid the bricks of the Capitol Building under the whip.

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@Cowscreen

who cares? they prolly didnt even know kneeling was gonna be a thing

ur supposed to stand cuz its respectful

its against nfl policy but y does that matter it is still super disrespectful

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Not according to the US Flag Code, kneeling isn't even mentioned.

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@Cowscreen

since forever lol

you are not showing respect for the national anthem, and the men and women who died and fought for your freedom

military people are very offended by it

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Since when is kneeling a sign of disrespect?

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@Cowscreen

im just saying he is trash anyway

as freedom of speech/peaceful protest it is protected, but personally it is very disrespectful to the flag, and he honestly probably doesn't even know the hard facts of what he is protesting, whether it be pro or con.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Does that make his movement unjustified? Thats a deflection from the issue.

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@Cowscreen

kapernick is trash anyway he would lose any game in a heartbeat

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@Cowscreen

kapernick is trash anyway he would lose any game in a heartbeat