Instigator / Pro

User_2006

1470

rating

debates

40.0%

won

Topic

#2155

My opponent will lose the debate

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 5 votes and with 22 points ahead, the winner is...

BearMan

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Publication date: 07.03.2020 09:48PM
Last updated date: 07.11.2020 09:18PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

BearMan

1615

rating

debates

93.75%

won

Description

1. PRO waives r1 and CON goes first. this is the rules and the instigator shall make and keep the rules unless outrages appear in the comments.
2. I am PRO and my opponent is CON.
3. BoP is shared.

Round 1

User_2006

07.03.2020 10:22PM

Pro

I waive as per format. I look forward to a discussion with Bearman.

BearMan

07.03.2020 11:13PM

Con

Statistically, I have a higher chance of not losing this debate.

Let's go by three options voters are tasked with:

Make Pro Win and Con Lose
Tie Pro and Con
Make Con Win and Pro Lose

Out of these three scenarios, only one is where you win and I lose.

Of course, this is a basic random scenario where our are arguments are the same and the voters are randomizing the results. But I will prove in fact, that your argument is inferior to mine:

You can not accurately prove the outcome of this debate, because you can not predict the future.

Round 2

User_2006

07.04.2020 03:38PM

Pro

You can not accurately prove the outcome of this debate, because you can not predict the future.

I can prove that, upon inspection, I am more experienced than my opponent. Since, without the need for sources, everyone knows that someone that is more experienced and skilled has a better tendency of winning the match.

I have 12 wins while my opponent has zero.

https://www.debateart.com/participants/BearMan/debates?type=finished

https://www.debateart.com/participants/User_2006

I can use semantics to kritik and even win a debate, while CON has shown no trace of this skill.

https://www.debateart.com/debates/1912/pele-is-truly-the-goat

https://www.debateart.com/debates/2087/the-democrat-party-is-the-anti-black-party

CON, with only one debate that shows his true potential, did something that, pretty much everyone on the site can do, including me and a plethora of others on the site.

Bearman refutes ideas like every other. The only "Win" he has is against a troll, while I have won against serious debaters.

https://www.debateart.com/debates/2077/resolved-in-the-united-states-the-stay-at-home-orders-should-not-be-repealed-before-the-pandemic-ends

https://www.debateart.com/debates/2070/the-elo-ranking-system-is-an-inadequate-method-of-surveying-ones-skill-level-on-dart (I lost this one, and I believe Jeff Goldblum trumps my skill, while my skill is nowhere inferior to Bearman's)

CON have not yet won a single debate with an actual serious debater, On the contrary, I have.

https://www.debateart.com/debates/1975/god-hates-homosexuality(This one is against Wylted, which is a serious debater.)

https://www.debateart.com/debates/1951/zelda-is-hotter-than-peach

Because of these reasons that demonstrate that PRO is more experienced than CON, and it goes without saying that more experienced/skilled persons have a better tendency compared to less experienced/skilled ones, I declare that it is very probable that I will win the debate, and Bearman will lose.

BearMan

07.04.2020 05:02PM

Con

I have 12 wins while my opponent has zero.

https://www.debateart.com/participants/BearMan/debates?type=finished
https://www.debateart.com/participants/User_2006

These 12 wins come with many losses too. Out of your 37 debates, 25 of them have shown to be losses. This shows that you, though more experienced at this site, lack skill of my ability. You claim you are good at debating, yet more than 50% of your debates are losses while all my debates are obvious wins. It is still more probable that with your inferior level of skill, you will not beat me.

Let me provide some logic at hand. There are two lawyers at hand. The first, an elderly lawyer loses most of his cases and has lousy argumentation. The second, a young lawyer, who has gone undefeated, and his true talent not exposed yet. It is clear the young lawyer is better than the elderly, though far less inexperienced. Using this point, you have shot yourself in the foot.

CON, with only one debate that shows his true potential, did something that, pretty much everyone on the site can do, including me and a plethora of others on the site.

Bearman refutes ideas like every other. The only "Win" he has is against a troll, while I have won against serious debaters.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/2077/resolved-in-the-united-states-the-stay-at-home-orders-should-not-be-repealed-before-the-pandemic-ends
https://www.debateart.com/debates/2070/the-elo-ranking-system-is-an-inadequate-method-of-surveying-ones-skill-level-on-dart (I lost this one, and I believe Jeff Goldblum trumps my skill, while my skill is nowhere inferior to Bearman's)

Arguably, it's not my fault a troll has accepted my debate. This does not show my lack of skill, but the lack of conduct EricT has for being a troll in the first place. You also have not proved that you are better than me, and you can actually do what I did in the debate you referred, until you prove this, I drop this point.

CON have not yet won a single debate with an actual serious debater, On the contrary, I have.
https://www.debateart.com/debates/1975/god-hates-homosexuality(This one is against Wylted, which is a serious debater.)
https://www.debateart.com/debates/1951/zelda-is-hotter-than-peach

My opponent glorifies Singularity or Wylted as a good debater, yet when you look at Singularity's won debates, it becomes apparent that he is a troll. Let us just look at why his profile was banned.

After reviewing their history, the moderation team has decided that Singularity, AKA Wylted, will be indefinitely banned from the site. This is an unusual course of action for the moderation team to take. A few key points that went in to our decision includes:
Repeatedly glorifying rape and sexual assault;
Repeatedly glorifying hate groups
Repeatedly glorifying sexual abuse towards minors, and most disturbingly,
Portraying himself as a 13-year-old-girl towards a 14-year-old boy; and
Multi-accounting to circumvent his ban.
Let me make this clear: The moderation team will not tolerate any glorification of Nazis, rape, pedophilia, and sexual assault.

User_2006 is proud and claims he is better than me, because he beat a sexual harasser, rape and sexual assault supporter in a debate. Singularity also has lack of skill, winning only 2 out of 8 debates he has participating in.

CONCLUSION: Though User_2006 claims he is more experienced than me, this does not translate into skill. I have proved that he is in fact worse at debating than I am, and his claims were factually absurd. My opponent still has not proved the resolution, and is in fact only using his experience to back it up. He still is yet to prove that he is certain that I will lose the debate.

Round 3

User_2006

07.04.2020 06:35PM

Pro

I concede. Bearman can have this one. Voters are free to vote for him.

BearMan

07.04.2020 09:18PM

Con

Thanks User. I enjoyed this discussion.

Intelligence_06

07.05.2020 03:42PM

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@PressF4Respect

I don't know what is up with you recently, but this is not a procession. Neither of us here have processed anything.

Barney

07.03.2020 11:36PM

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@User_2006

@BearMan

Good luck on this logic puzzle debate.

RationalMadman

07.05.2020 03:24PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Lol .

PressF4Respect

07.05.2020 04:51AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Good fight, but ultimately a procession.

David

07.04.2020 09:55PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Concession

Barney

07.04.2020 09:22PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Good fight, but ultimately a concession.

Trent0405

07.04.2020 09:20PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Concession.