Con will lose this debate (named “Debate A”)
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After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 4
- Time for argument
- Two days
- Max argument characters
- 10,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
For the sake of this debate, referring to “Debate B” to support or counter arguments is considered not to violate DebateArt terms unless a moderator says otherwise.
Debate B is considered a part of Debate A
debate B: https://www.debateart.com/debates/2246-con-will-lose-debate-a-this-debate-is-named-debate-b
Please see Debate B for more information.
Pro wins, Con losesPro and Con tiesCon wins, Pro loses
Con tries to use statistics, however, he has not considered the fact that I have a numerous advantage, and thus greater ability to defeat con. Because I have 8 rounds in total and he only has 4 rounds (as he has still not accepted Debate B), he cannot refute the fact that I can make twice the amount of arguments as he can.
My opponent says I cannot foresee the future, however, the likelihood that I am unable to continue the debate is extremely low to null, and hence not worth the discussion.
- I shall make conclusions.
- BoP is on Pro.
- Pro only proved that it is possible and possibly probable for Con to lose, however, the title implies that it is a truism that Con will lose.
- Pro did not fulfill his BoP.
- Pro cannot use the other debate for his advantage at this point in time knowingly no one accepted it. Pro's sole point is negated.
- Because there is no advantage left for Pro and he has failed to fulfill his BoP, thus I advise voters to vote Con.
- If he knows well he has DB arguments that refute my DA argument, why not use it now?
- If he does not know well what his DB arguments are, then there is essentially none. What is the value of it?
- Since the resolutions of DB is changed to not completely be the same to DA, thus arguments from DB will be distinct from ones in DA. Thus, even if he has applicable arguments for DB, he cannot use them here. Because of so, DB arguments made will be rendered partially futile here, unable to refute my DA argument.
- Pro did not use DB arguments here, thus this point IS futile.
Con will lose Debate A(This debate is named Debate B)
- I shall make conclusions.
- The original resolution is what Pro agreed to prove. He proved something else which is fallacious. Pro failed to fulfill his BoP.
- Pro moved the goalpost. His argument relied too much on an irrelevant argument, and it did not prove this resolution.
- Pro's DB argument is irrelevant to this issue: It is "More likely" instead of "100% will".
- Just because DB contains the hotter issue doesn't mean it IS this one. It means moving the goalpost.
- Since Pro failed the job, please vote Con.
Obvious win by CON. Why?
PRO states that debate B is part of debate A, but PRO never states that debate A is part of debate B. Therefore CON does not need to prove that seldiora will lose or tie debate B because, CON can win debate A without even winning debate B. The resolution of this debate is not that PRO will lose both, rather, that CON can win or tie debate A.
Having two debates has its benefits, but even so, PRO cannot prove that he can CERTAINLY win this debate. Essentially, PRO never proves why he can certainly win, and CON proves that PRO cannot certainly win. PRO uses his advantage wrong, and does not consider that B is not A, which means, that A can win and B has the ability to lose.
Basically what I said in this vote, but edited a little less.
Alright. Thank you.
What did you initially vote? I was wandering in poems and arts so I didn't see.