Instigator / Pro
32
1500
rating
16
debates
40.63%
won
Topic
#240

The User "YeshuaBought" unjustly called me a "racist" and "troll" on DDO

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
12
18
Better sources
10
12
Better legibility
7
7
Better conduct
3
5

After 7 votes and with 10 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
7,500
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
42
1697
rating
556
debates
68.17%
won
Description

Yeshua Bought called me a racist with no rational basis, and she also called me a troll. Here is the debate, accept this challenge if you please. Here is the debate she attacked me on-

https://www.debate.org/debates/Deport-all-Illegal-Immigrants-Change-my-Mind/1/

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@Raltar

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>Reported Vote: Raltar // Mod action: Removed

>Points Awarded: 6 points to Pro for arguments, sources, and conduct

>Reason for Decision: I'm a completely new user, so I don't know the backstory on all this drama (please don't tell me, either), nor do I have any grudges to settle.
But here is what I do see:
1. Pro cited a source and also claims to have evidence via private message.
2. Con merely denied everything, had no evidence, cited a random song and then engaged in a long rant before insulting Pro in the last round.
As an impartial observer, Pro made a good argument on his own and Con's bad behavior pushed the argument across the finish line to an obvious win for Pro.

>Reason for Mod Action: In order to award sources points, the voter must "explain how the sources were relevant to the debate. This requires that the voter explain how the sources impacted the debate, directly assessing the strength of at least one source, and explaining how it either strengthened or weakened the argument it was utilized for." The voter did not do this. In order to award argument points, the voter must identify the main arguments and counterarguments in the debate and weigh them to produce a result. The voter did not sufficiently did survey the main arguments of the debate. Finally, to award conduct points, the voter must show that one side was excessively rude (excessive = very frequent or severe). The voter provided no analysis as to the excessiveness of the conduct violations. The voter could cast a sufficient vote by explaining how the sources were relevant to the debate, analyzing at least one source, surveying and weighing the main arguments of the debate, and demonstrating how the conduct violations were excessive.
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If she calls you a racist, isin't that free speech?

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@Alec

direct message

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@drafterman

It seems the mods are more intent on dealing with who votes for what that keeping the site quality content.

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@nmvarco

Sorry, the mods are intent on making this DDO 2.0.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

This is exactly one of the reasons I left DDO. All the debates were “this person did this and this person did that.” Please keep this site unlike DDO. There are some high quality debates on here, please do not ruin the atmosphere.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

What does it mean to DM?

Debate like this will make this place the debate site of the internet. Classy

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

used the wrong song, but it was an even better choice.

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@YeshuaBought

link in description

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@YeshuaBought

So you just gave me permission to give a link. Thx.

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@Our_Boat_is_Right

Prove I said that with a link, or shut up. I don't know you from Adam, nor do I care about you.

My client, YeshuaBought has admitted nothing. ;)))))))))))))

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@Alec

It's her alternate account. You can DM me if you want proof. She admitted it.

I don't think YeshuaBought called you that. I think it was NKJVPrewrather.