Ordering drinks with no ice at a fastfood drive-thru
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Anyone who is stupid enough to order drinks without ice in the drive-thru is welcome to debate me.
When ordering a drink at a coffee shop or bar, there's nothing worse than getting too much ice. Businesses occasionally do this to fleece customers out of a full drink. Consequently, a generation of beverage connoisseurs have begun ordering drinks with an explicit request: no ice please.
When she finally called me over to get my drink, I was handed... half a cup of lukewarm chai. I thought maybe she had forgotten to add milk or something, so I asked why it was so empty. She said, very simply, deadpanned even, "That's what you get when you ask for no ice." I asked why that is and her response was, "We usually fill it up all the way with ice."
"Hold the pickles, hold the lettuce. Special orders don't upset us. All we ask is that you let us serve it your way!"
McDonald's was so pissy about "special orders" that I never bothered to eat there. Sorry, no, I don't want a pickle on my hamburger, I think that's vile, I'll do without your nastyburger rather than eat it with a pickle on it.
Over the past decade, several studies have been done that have warned people of ice and ice machine contamination, including a study done by The Mail on fast-food franchises that found ice from six out of 10 fast food restaurants has more bacteria than toilet water.
Anyone who is stupid enough......you are just being a fat ass....some retard who needs to be sterilized....an idiot who asks for no ice.
...customers higher drink prices...
...in thee kitchen ice usually comes in a kind of chest where customers can't get their grubby hands on it...
My points about excess calories...
[We are] debating whether customers should order drinks with no ice.
The source I provided states that the reason for unclean ice machines was that employees fail to clean the machine regularly. My opponent's claim about the ice coming from a "chest" also contradicts his opening statement where he insisted a machine automatically fills the cups with a set percentage of ice.
I personally consume these types of beverages regularly and without ice, yet I am neither overweight nor unhealthy. My opponent's claim is baseless and unsubstantiated, in addition to being an ad hominem logical fallacy.
The only point relative to the actual resolution [...] is the fact he pointed out ice machines are disgusting.
- As admitted by my opponent, companies fill cups with "50% to 75%" ice before they even begin pouring your beverage, which results in you receiving less than half the beverage you paid for. Therefore, ordering without ice allows you to receive the full amount of beverage you paid for, rather than be fleeced out of a full drink by a greedy corporation.
- Ice machines (including those used in the drive thru) were found to have "more bacteria than toilet water!" Avoiding having such contaminated ice added to your beverage is an obvious reason to order without ice.
- My opponent claims that ordering a beverage without ice will inconvenience him so badly that it will slow down service at his restaurant, which in turn will drive customers away, and that he will retaliate by charging more for his beverages. However, I countered this claim by pointing out that his own hateful and insulting attitude toward his "fat ass" and "retard" customers whom he wants to "sterilize" is having the exact same effect. When businesses push back against special orders, customers take their business elsewhere, which by my opponent's logic will increase the price of beverages. So it is in the best interest of everyone, my opponent included, that he change his attitude toward customers who order beverages without ice.
I have been working at fastfood since 1999.
The studies he cites though test dining room ice machines where thousands of people put their filthy hands.
...their hands could easily bump the ice while scooping with a glass or even the scoop’s handle could touch the ice after an employee handles it.