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#2946
AMV battle, 3 per Round.
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All stages have been completed. The voting points distribution and the result are presented below.
With 1 vote and 1 point ahead, the winner is ...
RationalMadman
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AMV = Anime Music Video
This does not equal 'Animated' on its own, if it's not manga/anime graphics it is disqualified.
The AMV should not be an official opening or closing or whatever of an Anime, it can be done by a semi-pro video editor but mainly should be amateurish in terms of who is doing it (fan-made in essence).
Vote based on both animation and sound (as well as vibe if you want) don't vote solely on either.
Round 1
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Artist (editor): Amy Chickadee
The song is in the video's name itself and the Anime is too.
Epilepsy Warning: at around 1:45 towards 2:10 there is some stuff you could consider strobe-like effect but it's not what I'd consider severe (it's not 'mild' at first though). If you have epilepsy from photosensitive triggers then skip that.
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Artist (editor): Marlon Wasweisich
Sensitivity warning: There is blood in this Anime and sad theme to the earlier part.
Song:
Blood // Water
by
Grandson
Anime: Kimetsu no Yaiba (in English it translates to Demon Slayer).
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Artist (editor): Kintsugi
Song:
Lovely
by
Billie Eilish
Anime: Naruto (including Shipuuden but not Boruto and such).
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Very much appreciate the opportunity to do this, RM. I've found quite a few amazing AMVs over the years, and combing through those to find a top 12 is surprisingly difficult. Still, going to give it my best shot.
Editor: Umika Sayoji (Kaya 'Yana' Malaya)
Anime: Various (mostly Fate series, though it's spliced with quite a few others)
Song: Iron by Woodkid
No matter how many AMVs I see over the years, this one always seems to stand out. Part of the reason there are so many anime in this one is that it's taking the baseline of the Fate series (particularly Fate/Zero) and crafting a unique perspective with it that I haven't seen any other AMV manage nearly so well. It's a marvel of editing.
Editor: OneBrunou
Anime: One Piece
Song: Iridescent by Linkin Park
I think this captures the spirit of the show incredibly well, and showcases some amazing editing skills combined with pitch-perfect choices of song and scene. Another classic in my book.
Editor: xGeminii
Anime: Anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day
Song: Center of Attention by Jackson Waters
While quiet when compared with the other two on this list, it is by far the most emotionally evocative. I hadn't seen Anohana before I saw this AMV, but I didn't have to in order to appreciate this amazing work. Not the first time this editor has made an AMV that made me go watch a series immediately after I saw it, but this is her best work, in my opinion.
Onto the next round!
Round 2
This Round, I am going for a Satanic/Horror theme. I am aware this may offend or annoy some users so I put it all in one Round. The idea is to be creepy and hypnotising, where you can't help but replay the video in curiosity/awe as if it were a guilty pleasure.
Anime: Main focus is on Kakegurui with scenes from Various others
Song:
Toxic (Britney Spears cover)
by
2WEI
Programs used: Adobe Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop
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Artist (editor): Vichima
Anime: Yakusoku no Neverland (translates in English to The Promised Neverland)
Song:
Cradles
by
Sub Urban
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Song:
Animal
by
Jim Yosef x RIELL
Animes Used:
Anime in the Thumbnail (Nekomonogatari)
BEASTARS
Darling in the Franxx
Kakegurui
Mirai
Nikki
Devil lines
Blood CKuzu no honaki
Kimi no Suizou wo Tabetai
Monogatari Series
Citrus
Tokyo Ghoul
Sankarea
Fireworks
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I'll steer clear of theming in this and just focus on my favorites. I'll also be going for quite a bit of variety, showcasing the skills of different editors using different songs and techniques to showcase different anime series (I plan to repeat only one) and movies. That being said, this round will trend more modern in both the selections of anime and the creation of the AMVs.
Kimetsu no Yaiba⌠AMV♫⌡: Awaken
Editor: PseudoBaka
Anime: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Song: Awaken by Valerie Broussard
Editor: PseudoBaka
Anime: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Song: Awaken by Valerie Broussard
One of my most recent favorites, it's also one of the best showcases of this incredible anime, matched incredibly well to the song. What truly makes this one stand out to me is the use of sound effects on speech from the show throughout the video. The careful selections of scenes and sounds make this AMV pop without being too busy.
Oz
Editor: Vinurify (now moved.)
Anime: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Song: Sooner or Later by Mat Kearney
Editor: Vinurify (now moved.)
Anime: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Song: Sooner or Later by Mat Kearney
This editor specialized in FMA:B AMVs, and while many of them are incredible, this one stands out. It hits many of the great emotional beats of the show, and does an amazing job shifting between black and white and color animation. I'm particularly fond of the crisp edits in this. Another classic.
Absolute Zero [Madoka AMV]
Editor: Kinnsao San
Anime: Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Song: Dead V by Nightcall (feat. Dreamhour)
This comes from an editor who, like the previous AMV, has specialized in this anime. Again, this one stands out as an emotional heavyweight, a deep dive into the suffering of a character who has endured the worst of the trials the series has to offer over and over again. Song and scene selection blend extraordinarily well in a truly evocative AMV.
Onto R3!
Round 3
This Round's theme is 'badass'.
The entire Round will involve violence. It is an aspect of Anime culture that you would have to be very ignorant to ignore. Japan has always been a very violence-happy nation in its history and has no significant shame in this. You can criticise it but you cannot ignore it if you want to properly grasp Anime culture similarly to how one can't ignore the dark side, lyrically, if they want to properly understand the history and depth of rap culture.
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Warning: First few seconds have strobing effect.
Artist (editor): Im RONIN
Song:
Boss Bitch
by
Doja Cat
Anime: The Legend of Korra (Avatar off-shoot)
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Song:
My Name (Wearing Me Out)
by
Shinedown
Anime: Attack On Titan
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Artist (editor): Light Raider
Song:
Soldiers
by
NEONI x FJØRA
Animes Used:
Anime in the Thumbnail - Blood C
Demon Slayer
The Ancient Magus Bride (Mahoutsukai no Yome)
Yona of the Dawn
Cross Ange
Owari no Seraph
Attack on Titan (Shingeki no Kyojin)
Beyond the Boundary (Kyokai No Kanata)
Violet EvergardenFate/Grand Order - Absolute
Demonic Front: BabyloniaTales Of Zestiria
Sword Art Online Series
Akame Ga Kill
Vinland Saga
Goblin Slayer
Noragami
Rakudai Kishi no cavalry
Drifters
Arslan Senki
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With the final rounds coming on, I'll put the spotlight on a couple of series that don't get a lot of love though two more incredible AMVs, and get a set of well-known and well-loved movies in here.
Trial by Drowning
Editor: pink haze (the original account doesn't exist)
Anime: Casshern Sins
Song: A Conversation with God by Darren Hayes
Editor: pink haze (the original account doesn't exist)
Anime: Casshern Sins
Song: A Conversation with God by Darren Hayes
This is another instance of a series I'd never heard of before I saw this video, but was nonetheless enthralled by the music video. It's a beautiful song that matches perfectly with the scenes depicted of the main character haunted by his past and struggling against something he knows he cannot control. It's particularly well-synced to the music, and I'm especially a fan of its overlaid scenes.
This is an incredible action set piece covering a series that is chock full of incredible fight scenes. It's especially interesting to watch how the editor juxtaposes the fighting elements with the interactions between the girls outside of those fights.
Adieu, Perchance to Dream
Editor: Mastamind (again, no account remains)
Anime: Children Who Chase Lost Voices, From Up On Poppy Hill, Grave Of The Fireflies, Howl's Moving Castle, Kiki's Delivery Service, Laputa: Castle in the Sky, My Neighbor Totoro, Ponyo, Secret World Of Arrietty, Spirited Away, Tales From Earthsea
Song: Cough Syrup by Young the Giant
Editor: Mastamind (again, no account remains)
Anime: Children Who Chase Lost Voices, From Up On Poppy Hill, Grave Of The Fireflies, Howl's Moving Castle, Kiki's Delivery Service, Laputa: Castle in the Sky, My Neighbor Totoro, Ponyo, Secret World Of Arrietty, Spirited Away, Tales From Earthsea
Song: Cough Syrup by Young the Giant
Part of what I love about this AMV is just how well it uses every movie in Studio Ghibli's arsenal, portraying the various ways each movie rhymes with others while also showcasing the best each has to offer individually. The emotional beats are all on point, but what makes it exceptional is how well it portrays the magic of these movies. It's a joy to watch.
Onto the final round!
Round 4
Finishing themeless with 3 strong picks.
Enjoy. Good battle, Whiteflame.
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Anime: Weathering with You (Tenki no Ko, literal translation is "Child of Weather")
Everything Black
by
Unlike Pluto ft. Mike Taylor
Anime: Black Clover
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Down to the final 3. Like I said at the start, choosing a top 12 was a daunting task. I've been saving a rather long list of my favorites over the years, and the last few AMVs I eliminated include some that I would say are among the best I've ever seen. Tough as it was, I very much enjoyed revisiting all these videos, and while some of these editors are either not producing AMV content anymore or, sadly, have passed away (RIP Umika Sayoji), I think all of them (and I include RM's picks in this) deserve a spotlight on their work. It's truly inspiring to see what each and every one of them did with the series and movies they showcased. For those who are interested, among my choices, xGeminii, kumoclouds, PseudoBaka, Kinnsao San and OneBrunou have each posted new videos within the last year. I've subscribed to their channels and am always interested in new posts. For that matter, I had already subscribed to the editor of two of RM's choices, Light Raider, and plan to subscribe to at least a couple of others I had not seen before (looking at JazzsVids and Vichima, in particular).
One Punch Man AMV - Rise (Fight The Fade)
Editor: DarkoAMV
Anime: One Punch Man
Song: Rise by Fight the Fade
Editor: DarkoAMV
Anime: One Punch Man
Song: Rise by Fight the Fade
I'll start this round with a bang. One Punch Man showcases some of the best sakuga of any series, and it's all on display here. The effects added by the editor augment each scene without overwhelming it and the music is very fitting to the series. Of all the choices on my list, this is probably the one I would want to watch over and over again the most, demonstrating both the humor and the incredibly hype action that makes this series a joy to watch.
Many of the song choices on this list have been excellent fits for a series or theme, but especially with complex characters, it can incredibly difficult to find a song that fits them perfectly. This is one of those choices, and I was blown away on first viewing. This AMV really captures the tone of the movie, rising and falling with the emotional weight of the scenes depicted, but what sets it apart is just how well it represents the main character and his struggles with his past.
Mahou Shoujo Requiem
Editor: Shin AMV (not active)
Anime: Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Song: Cosmic Love by Florence and the Machine
Editor: Shin AMV (not active)
Anime: Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Song: Cosmic Love by Florence and the Machine
I've highlighted more than a few classics on this list, but I'll leave you with one more. This is one of the few that I hadn't watched in years and honestly wasn't sure would hold up against more recent examples. Yet, it is still amazing. The way the editor matched the beats of the song and the scenes depicted is breath-taking, and while this is the only example of a series I will spotlight twice, it couldn't be more different from Absolute Zero. It's a showcase of the whole series and all its characters, giving you just enough time to soak in each scene. A master editor at work.
RM, it was a pleasure.
there is a middle part where it's very hard to pick the right scene(s), I have done a minute fully so far.
Love to see what you come up with.
I'll leave it private especially until you've seen so it isn't taken down for copyright for the audio, though even the visuals might demand that outcome.
Thanks.
I have been inspired to make a Demon Slayer AMV. I am quite good with finding legal free software, audio, movie maker etc and with Animes it's possible to basically legally obtain it so long as I don't upload it anywhere and use it solely for the AMV. I'll PM you it when done (or I could be a famous AMV maker on an alias you never know) but seriously I'll try and make it lol
Well won, though kinda frustrated we only got one vote.
You gonna vote? :P
please finish your vote when you have time, I look forward to reading it.
Glad you appreciate that one.
I had not properly given a full viewing to the adieu AMV when I stated my favourites earlier on. I stand by ranking it 100% that is essentially a music video in every sense.
Couldn’t be...
"Could just give numbers, but they aren’t going to mean much without explanation."
I have a hypothesis that this was written by a scientist.
I think I’ll hold off for now. Suffice it to say that my rating system is more involved, and I don’t want to give it here before others have had a chance to employ their own. Could just give numbers, but they aren’t going to mean much without explanation, so I’ll wait until the end.
I will just score them. Note that my scoring system (which I will explain later when the voting period is over) isn't based on my own 'feeling' alone, that's a significant factor but not the only one. I rank based on if I could spot things about it that I'd improve, if it's very difficult for me to truly say I could improve it, I default it to 100% (so I work from 100 down instead of 0 up and gauge it like that).
My R1:
97%
95%
94%
Your R1:
84%
66%
88%
My R2:
98%
100%
100%
Your R2:
91%
73%
84%
My R3:
95%
100%
98%
Your R3:
92%
83%
100%
My R4:
98%
92%
96%
Your R4:
97%
81%
97%
I’d be up for doing that at the end. Feel like it might just be a nice opportunity to rate ourselves and each other without risk at that point.
do you want me to leave an RFD and score the AMVs? I think I won obviously but I am curious if you wanted that. I would want it from you too but I understand the problem it poses because we both could influence voters.
If we make it to the nearest 0.1 out of 10, I average 8.8/10 so far and Whiteflame averages 8.6/10 on your scores
toxic: wow, that's chilling, winner winner chicken dinner indeed. 100/100
cradles: glitchy effect got a bit overboard near end but fine 80/100
animal: good try given the difficulty to fill the violin chorus, though some parts were kind of awkward. 90/100
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awaken: reasonably nice stuff, not bad at all 95/100
Oz: Just seemed another lot of flashes of random similar scenes without stronger flow... 80/100
Madoka: not a big fan of the song but the animation was fine 80/100
I could probably go a few more debates before I had to start reusing AMVs, though my choices for subsequent rounds of this sort would probably include more repeat anime and/or editors. I still try to keep up with new ones, though I'll admit that my scope is somewhat limited by my previous finds. I trend more towards anime than AMVs, though I like them for different reasons, so I can see why you might prefer the latter to the former. There are some examples (I didn't post them in these rounds) of AMVs that did such a good job portraying the best parts of an anime that I actually preferred them to the series after watching the full thing. I've loved a lot of different kinds of anime, posted a favorite list here a little while back, and yeah, prefer mostly subbed myself with a few exceptions (mostly 90s anime, which I started watching dubbed and which had amazing dubs). No shade on the manga vs. anime front. There are some series (One Piece comes to mind) where the pacing of the anime is just garbage, but it's much better in the manga. Then there are series that just take what's in the manga and portray it way better on screen, like Kimetsu no Yaiba. There are even a few examples of series that have taken massive liberties with the story and come out with something better than the original, like Dororo. Also, just somewhat depends on whether you like the drawing style or the full motion animation. I usually prefer the anime, personally.
That was another thing I think we did differently. Though, I admit 'poor taste judgement' may be a better way of putting it (in the past from me).
If you notice, I think maybe only one of these AMVs are ones I've used before, most are recent. I wanted to explore many new ones and this gave me the opportunity to. I don't want to offend weeaboos but I am not the biggest Anime junkie, I often prefer AMVs to the actual Anime, though I haven't watched enough of most to be able to truly say that. I love the art of Anime more than the general style of it. The kinds of Anime I love the crap out of have brilliant storylines and character development AS WELL AS great graphics and voice-acting (I only judge this on subbed, dubbed is unbearably cringe for me most of the time).
I am also more of a watcher than a reader, I completely disagree with the notion that smarter people enjoy books while dumber people enjoy movies and series, in Anime especially I have found no real correlation like this because often Mangas are tedious to read and require far too much piecing together of the storyline from the reader.
Good to see a solidly-made Baki AMV. I'm caught up on the series, it's pretty good.
Maybe so. I honestly picked my list based on what I felt were my absolute favorites mixed with a few I appreciate quite a bit based on certain elements. Can't say that there was a specific tactic to my choices - it was honestly just a lot of fun going through some of the AMVs I've appreciated over the years and picking out a set of 12 that represent some of the best I've seen. Didn't really think much on the order except to keep each round diverse with genres and minimize the number of AMVs that include the same anime, were done by the same editor, or included songs from the same artist. I was surprised how easy that was - if you took a look at my overall list, there's a lot of One Piece, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood and Naruto in there.
As for this being Rated, it's not that big of an issue for me. I don't do this kind of debate (same with the one I did with Supa) to get a win. It's honestly some of the most enjoyable stuff for me to do, and if it comes at a cost to my rating, I'm good with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUsCGh5-wNI
This is an AMV that I extremely enjoyed but I opted out of using as I was sure it's a high-risk medium-reward AMV vs most audience members on this website.
did RM read my song review site and find Animal had a ridiculously high rating? well, let's see how the amv's are
Warrior: tired of the song but decent animation 85/100
Blood/water: excellent syncing and well done overall 95/100
Lovely: feels slightly unfitting but ok 80/100
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steel: good war scenes and set ups, I see nothing wrong here 95/100
Let it go: a bit too many flashes and weird transition effects... 75/100
anohana: Neat timing of ideas and cool stuff overall, not bad... 90/100
Based on supadudz's taste you'd probably have edged out the win if you chose that over one of your weaker pics in his eyes.
I set my choices up to hit a wide range of voters just in case, so we will see.
The main thing I remembered throughout is that I am picking AMVs to please the audience, not necessarily myself. I think you just went with both at once.
There are ones I dropped that I'd prefer over these but I chose these for audience pleasure, predicting what people like a lot or dislike and how to hit them hard as well as structuring my picks so I win Rounds not just overall points (because some people vote like that).
I also ordered the AMVs in rounds so that they begin with a hard-hitter that somewhat shocks you each time as it wasn't quite what you were expecting, then the middle choice is much more 'straightforward' and easy to watch while the closing pick is again meant to impress you and surprise.
I also had less than you to lose since this is Rated and I regularly 'buffer' my rating with debates, assuming I maintain as fairly 65/35 kind of winrate as things progress and my rating is also (at present) lower than yours. So, I figured even if I lose this, it was worth the gamble. It's also why I don't let myself get hooked on winstreaks like Ragnar and Oromagi, I just go for the hell of it and if it gets boring I take a break and even forfeit debates. This way, I am always in a position to 'tear down' a better rated debater quite significantly and noone can really accuse me of 'gaming the system' as I maintain one account, I just don't care as much about Rating as others do.
Even if I hadn't won the 'king of the hill' medal, I'd just roll with the punches, I was fortunate to rise fast and hard before the hardcore ones surpassed me.
Another AMV I was very close to selecting:
https://youtu.be/VF3TDPhj_Bs