Instigator / Con
7
1498
rating
5
debates
50.0%
won
Topic
#3117

Pitbulls should be banned in the entire United States

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
3
0
Better sources
2
0
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
0

After 1 vote and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

TheUnderdog
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
5,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
1
1387
rating
34
debates
22.06%
won
Description

Rules:

1) I waive the first round and my opponent waives the last round.
2) No ad hommin attacks.

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@drlebronski

The voting period has closed.

would vote the underdog but its not giving me the option for some reason

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@Wylted

How would sterilizing everyone do harm? Your literally preventing the birth of murderers so your saving lives. If people wanted kids, there could be a law that mandates the only way you can get kids is through adoption. Not only would it prevent murderers from being born, but if you adopt a kid, that kid is less likely to commit murder. This doesn't mean that this should be mandated because freedom is a trade off, whether that is the freedom to breed or the freedom to own a pitbull. I'm not ready for a rated debate yet. Maybe later.

Sterilizing everyone actually does harm. Banning people from owning a single type of inbred dog, causes no harm. In a cost benefit analysis mass sterilization makes no sense and banning pitbulls does. Not sure why you are debating that here though when you could just do a rated debate to get something closer to my best argument

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@Wylted

I was making the claim that although 20 people die a year in the US due to pitbulls, there are way more dangerous things that should be legal. It would be like sterilizing everybody in the country because their kid might be a murderer(I know you oppose forced sterilization of people, so for you this stance is unprincipled). You would prevent 9x as many deaths from sterilizing everybody as you would from banning a dog breed. Most pitbulls aren't going to kill anyone just like most people don't kill anyone. The families of the 20 people that died would feel sadness and they might want the individual dog that did the killing to be put to death. This doesn't mean they want all pitbulls to be banned from every household in the US as the vast majority of pitbulls will never kill anyone.

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@TheUnderdog

why are you asking people to vote. It is unrated. it's not just to save 20 lives, there also lots of attacks that don't end in death and other considerations. However I think the families of those 20 people who died, assuming your numbers are correct, would disgree that saving 20 lives with a ban that actually does no harm would be beneficial.

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@Wylted

I would argue if your willing to ban pitbulls to save 20 lives a year, this isn't libetarian. Please change that on your profile.

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@blamonkey
@oromagi

Please vote on this; it's a very easy read.

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@TheUnderdog

I don't care. the debate is unrated

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@Wylted

I don't think I did new arguments in the final round and those weren't banned in this debate. All I did was addressed your single contention and this took a lot of space because I could afford the space.

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@Intelligence_06

replace the word pitbull with the word alligator and see if your question still makes sense

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@Sum1hugme

those people would be biased obviously. Well up until the pitbull turns on them or a young family member as is all too common with that breed

And I am that terrible monster who's never had any dogs ever. I am curious of how this debate will go.

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@Intelligence_06

I've never met a person that actually raised pitbulls that thinks they should be illegal. My favorite dogs have all been pitbull terriers.

Wait...dogs? What about the ones that has established a bond of connection between him and the owner? Shouldn't they be spared, if they don't do anything wrong with the dogs?

What is a pitbull?

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@Wylted

Looking back, that was a mistake I made. My bad.

I honestly did not know you were forfeiting round 1 and essentially making this a 2 round debate.