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Bones

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THBT: Climate change is likely real.

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After 1 vote and with 7 points ahead, the winner is...

Bones

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Publication date: 08.19.2021 11:24PM
Last updated date: 09.21.2021 04:10AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Three days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

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StevenCrowder

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THBT: Climate change is likely real.

1. No new arguments are to be made in the final round.
2. Definitions are agreed upon and are not to be contested.
3. Rules are agreed upon and are not to be contested.
4. Sources can be hyperlinked or provided in the comment section.
5. A breach of rules 1-5 should result in a 1 point penalty.
6. No Kritiks.
7. A breach in rules 6-7 should result an instant loss.

Round 1

Bones

08.21.2021 03:39AM

Pro

Thx StevenCrowder,

Prelim:

THBT: Climate change is real
BoP

Bones = Climate change is real.
StevenCrowder= Climate change is not real.

Contention 1: Analysis of the resolution

p1. The climate exists

True via truism.

p2. The climate changes

Evidence. Source of used image.

c1. Climate Change exists

Contention 2: Argument from the scientific testimony

extremely likely that more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010 was caused by human activity.

- 2013 fifth assessment report conducted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

“Humanity cannot afford to ignore such clear signals,” the U.S.-led team wrote in the journal Nature Climate Change of satellite measurements of rising temperatures over the past 40 years.

They said confidence that human activities were raising the heat at the Earth’s surface had reached a “five-sigma” level, a statistical gauge meaning there is only a one-in-a-million chance that the signal would appear if there was no warming.

Such a “gold standard” was applied in 2012, for instance, to confirm the discovery of the Higgs boson subatomic particle, a basic building block of the universe.

Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening.

- American Association of the Advancement of Science

The Earth’s climate is changing in response to increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases (GHGs) and particulate matter in the atmosphere, largely as the result of human activities.

- American Chemical Society

"Based on extensive scientific evidence, it is extremely likely that human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases, are the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. There is no alterative explanation supported by convincing evidence."

- American Geophysical Union

The AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant.

- American Medical Association

Research has found a human influence on the climate of the past several decades ... The IPCC (2013), USGCRP (2017), and USGCRP (2018) indicate that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-twentieth century.

- American Meteorological Society

Earth's changing climate is a critical issue and poses the risk of significant environmental, social and economic disruptions around the globe. While natural sources of climate variability are significant, multiple lines of evidence indicate that human influences have had an increasingly dominant effect on global climate warming observed since the mid-twentieth century.

- American Physical Society

"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2011), the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2013) and the U.S. Global Change Research Program (Melillo et al., 2014) that global climate has warmed in response to increasing concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other greenhouse gases ... Human activities (mainly greenhouse-gas emissions) are the dominant cause of the rapid warming since the middle 1900s (IPCC, 2013)."

- The Geological Society of America

Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal.

- Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

Scientists have known for some time, from multiple lines of evidence, that humans are changing Earth’s climate, primarily through greenhouse gas emissions

- U.S. National Academy of Sciences

Earth’s climate is now changing faster than at any point in the history of modern civilization, primarily as a result of human activities." (2018, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)

- U.S. Global Change Research Program

Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems.

- Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

Rigorous international research, including work carried out and supported by the Government of Canada, reveals that greenhouse gases resulting from human activities contribute to the warming of the atmosphere and the oceans and constitute a serious risk to the health and safety of our society, as well as having an impact on all life.

- Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic society

We endorse the conclusions of the IPCC assessment that 'There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities'.

- Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences

scientific assessments have increasingly reaffirmed that human activities are indeed changing the composition of the atmosphere, in particular through the burning of fossil fuels for energy production and transportation

- World Meteorological Organization

Sources:

[1]https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/indicators.php

[2]https://crudata.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/

[3][http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp

StevenCrowder

08.21.2021 06:36AM

Con

Your whole argument is an appeal to authority data can easily be manipulated especially when media has a liberal bias

regardless of this i will make my case

Climate change is marxism

Once upon a time karl marx sought to destroy capitalism

in order to do this he had to make it seem like the climate (it hasn't changed significantly) was changing due to capitalism thus he spread propaganda about climate change.

Round 2

Bones

08.21.2021 09:42AM

Pro

Thx steven for your prompt reply.

OBSERVATION

Contention 1 has been neglected thus I extend it.

Contention 2: Argument from scientific testimony

Crowder: Your whole argument is an appeal to authority data can easily be manipulated especially when media has a liberal bias

It appears my opponent has confused "deferring to an authority on the issue" with the appeal to authority fallacy. A fallacy is an error in reasoning. Dismissing a council of legitimate experts and authorities turns good skepticism into denialism. The appeal to authority is a fallacy in argumentation, but deferring to an authority is a reliable heuristic that people use on virtually all problems. True, there is always a chance that any authority can be wrong, which is why I have provided 16 independent institutes and their testimonies. It is not at all unreasonable to accept information as provisionally true by credible authorities, especially in the fashion in which I have provided. Usually, in debating, calling an argument an appeal to authority requires the accuser to demonstrate why this is the case, and where the offence has been committed. Steven Crowder, I invite you to point to me where the scientific literature I have provided is inconsistent or faulty.

Rebuttal: Story time!

Steven: Climate change is marxism

I dispute this on the grounds of the identity of Indiscernibles, which dictates that no two things have exactly the same properties. As climate change and Marxism are distinct entities, they must also be distinct in terms of their properties. Thus to say that climate change is Marxism is false.

Steven: Once upon a time karl marx sought to destroy capitalism

In order to do this he had to make it seem like the climate (it hasn't changed significantly) was changing due to capitalism thus he spread propaganda about climate change.

That’s a nice story, but the business of Karl Marx is not of any concern to me. The scientific literature that I have provided is true irrespective of what Marx said. But since you’re so nice to provide a story, here’s Jesus and the fisherman.

A long, long, long time ago, Jesus needed his friends to help[ him spread God’s message. As he walked down by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two fishermen put their nets in the water to catch fish. The two men’s names were Simon and Andrew. Jesus called out to them and they came to the shore. Jesus said “Follow me! And I will make you special fishermen of the people”. The two men left their nets at once and joined him. They had understood that Jesus was the promised Savior. As he went along, Jesus came across another two brothers, James and John. They were sitting in a fishing boat. They were repairing their nets. When Jesus called their names, they left their nets and joined Jesus. They too know that Jesus was sent by God. Jesus chose these people because they were loyal to God and not because they were talented or gifted. He gave them new names. Simon was named Peter. Andrew was named Apostle. John and James were called “sons of thunder”. D end.

Also would you like to play a game of tic tac toe? I’ll got first.

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StevenCrowder

08.21.2021 08:41PM

Con

CONCLUSION

I have given him irrefutable evidence to which he has ignored

TIC TAC TOE

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Round 3

Bones

08.22.2021 04:03AM

Pro

CONCLUSION
I have given him irrefutable evidence to which he has ignored

I quite literally copy and pasted your entire argument to dissect. Every single word of your argument has been debunked. I have provided a syllogism which was completely dropped, and 16 sources which likewise, were dropped. VOTE BONES.

Now onto the main course.

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StevenCrowder

08.22.2021 04:10AM

Con

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drlebronski

08.22.2021 04:11AM

a debate where you just play tic tac toe would be kinda cool

drlebronski

08.21.2021 11:48PM

'CONCLUSION
I have given him irrefutable evidence to which he has ignored"
that is the best argument i have ever heard this guy deserves to be head mod

Nyxified

08.21.2021 11:20PM

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@drlebronski

I'm climate chamge????????????????????????? (NOT CLICKBAIT)

drlebronski

08.21.2021 09:42PM

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@Nyxified

what are you talking about?
He clearly won this debate with "irrefutable evidence" such as "climate change is marxism".
libtards like you just dont understand the science of it
/sarcasm

Nyxified

08.21.2021 09:03PM

This debate is a bruh moment from con

At what point are you just trolling

Bones

08.19.2021 11:54PM

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@Intelligence_06

That is the exact argument I am using.

Intelligence_06

08.19.2021 11:37PM

1. The climate exists
2. The climate changes
3. Climate Change exists

Intelligence_06

08.22.2021 04:54AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Bones wins this debate by a landslide.

First off, Pro gives evidence suggesting that humans are changing the climate, massive amounts of them. All Con did was to dismiss it as an appeal to authority, and a baseless theory about Marx creating Communism, which, isn’t mentioned or given by anything as of my knowledge now. The appeal to authority fallacy declaration isn’t valid either, as Con used zero effort to prove that those sources are not reliable. Pro held those points to the end and Con claimed that his baseless argument was irrefutable, despite that it has been refuted.

Conduct to Pro because Con clearly isn’t taking this debate seriously. Seriously. How non-serious do you have to be to declare a baseless argument as “irrefutable” and give absolutely nothing in the last round when losing?

S&g to Pro due to Con not capitalizing correctly and missing periods in some sentences, that just adds on to his non-serious atmosphere of debating, which isn’t a good thing.