Instigator / Con
4
1518
rating
15
debates
40.0%
won
Topic
#3271

(Context in the description) We should accept Elon Musk's offer to colonize Mars.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
3
Better sources
2
2
Better legibility
1
1
Better conduct
1
1

After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

Intelligence_06
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
7
1731
rating
167
debates
73.05%
won
Description

CONTEXT:
You are the UN (United Nations) and Elon Musk makes an offer to us to colonize Mars. If you accept, the first colony on Mars will be a private one.
Motion: We should accept Elon Musk's offer to colonize Mars.

(Motion taken from the World Scholars Cup Regional Round, Dubai-1. I think it's a really debatable topic.)

Criterion
Con
Tie
Pro
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

1. Why Elon Musk?
Con: government > people.
Pro: SpaceX = Good, Nasa will endorse Musk.
Con: mission could fail at expense of crew lives, and it's impossible to feed 5-7 people for 7 months.

2. Elon Musk has the potential to turn corrupt.
Con: wealth = corruption.
Pro: Musk <> bad, and Musk = wealthy.
Con: No government = bad.

3. Why?
Con: P ( fix earth ∩ go to mars ) = 0
Pro: P ( fix earth ∩ go to mars ) <> 0, and space stuff = useful innovation
Con: Building a rocket could cause earth to fail, also Musk would not share innovation, and spies and enemies could infiltrate mission.
Pro: Previous space innovation in place, and...

I think that's enough of the blow by blow.

In gist, con largely did a K to the topic by saying we just shouldn't go to Mars. I did not see much support for the corruption points, and not sure what he was thinking with the random enemies point. I was rather surprised pro did not better leverage the fear that the resources for one rocket would ruin the earth, as us being on the brink would make getting a colony established truly vital.
The success from previous space ventures, giving us some neat technologies, carries the day. While it's not assured Musk would share innovations with earth, someone else having something nice does not harm anyone else. Assuming it's either his offer or the risk of us maybe never going, then let him risk his people and go.

I would have preferred this debate were it focused better. Maybe Musk's mission vs Nasa's, rather than something like maybe Nasa could fund Musk's mission.

And yes, I can personally see all kinds of problems with a private colony. I did not see much articulation for it being bad, just the assumption that it is bad because it's private.