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#3719

Is Belief in the Resurrection Reasonable?

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 4 votes and with 25 points ahead, the winner is...

Mall

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Religion

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Publication date: 09.06.2022 10:50PM
Last updated date: 11.13.2022 03:12PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: One week
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

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Mall

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Description

Format:

Round 1: Opening Statements (Make a case for/against the resurrection)

Round 2: Rebuttals (Respond to the opponents case with counter arguments)

Round 3: Rebuttals (Respond to the opponents Rebuttals)

Round 4: Answering Audience Questions (Respond ONLY to any comments/questions on the debate page)

Round 5: Conclusions (Restate and summarize the debate)

Definitions:

Belief - conviction of the truth of some statement or the reality of some being or phenomenon especially when based on examination of evidence

Resurrection - the rising of Christ from the dead

Reasonable - being in accordance with reason

Round 1

Esquire

09.14.2022 03:10PM

Con

Forfeited

Mall

09.14.2022 11:49PM

Pro

Opening statement only.

It is reasonable, logical or valid to believe in the resurrection.

What is one explanation it would be logical?

When you're a Christian. It's reasonable or correct or valid to hold that belief.

If you believe in or administer baptisms, it is logical.

If you believe in the death of Christ, it logically follows to believe in the Resurrection also.

There can be no resurrection without death.

When you understand the doctrine of salvation wanting it, it'd be reasonable to believe in the resurrection.

Thus far I have shown it is reasonable from a theist point.

But reasonable nonetheless.

As far as for everyone one else, would it be reasonable?

I guess that's what the opposing side will work out.

Round 2

Esquire

09.21.2022 11:49PM

Con

Forfeited

Mall

09.22.2022 03:47PM

Pro

I rest my case on those fair points alone.

Round 3

Esquire

09.29.2022 03:47PM

Con

Forfeited

Mall

09.30.2022 10:45AM

Pro

Do you have a case?

Round 4

Esquire

10.07.2022 10:45AM

Con

Forfeited

Mall

10.07.2022 11:20AM

Pro

I'm disappointed.

Well there you have it folks.

A no show, a bluff.

Round 5

Esquire

10.14.2022 11:20AM

Con

Forfeited

Mall

10.14.2022 03:12PM

Pro

#10

That's a wrap folks.

Esquire

09.08.2022 05:09AM

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@Mall

Thank you for accepting the debate, Mall!

Esquire

09.06.2022 11:10PM

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@Ehyeh

Thank you for the welcome! Sure, I would be down for that.

Ehyeh

09.06.2022 10:56PM

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@Esquire

Hello sir, welcome to the site! it seems you're an atheist, it would be cool to see you argue against my form of theism someday (pantheism).

K_Michael

10.25.2022 07:43PM

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Con

Tie

Pro

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Reason:

Forfeiture

Con's arguments were far from persuasive, or even logical.
"When you're a Christian. It's reasonable or correct or valid to hold that belief."
This merely passes the buck to whether it is reasonable to be a Christian.

"If you believe in or administer baptisms, it is logical."
This makes even less sense, as baptisms were administered before the Resurrection of Christ.

"If you believe in the death of Christ, it logically follows to believe in the Resurrection also."
This makes the least logical sense so far. Death is a certainty (along with taxes, as the idiom goes), but Resurrection flies in the face of thousands of years of people not getting resurrected, as well as our best understanding of biology. As someone who lived 2000 years ago, it is logical to believe that Jesus died, but it would require Extraordinary Evidence to justify a belief in his resurrection.

"There can be no resurrection without death."
True, but there CAN be death without resurrection. This is, in fact the far more common condition.

"When you understand the doctrine of salvation wanting it, it'd be reasonable to believe in the resurrection."
This requires that one already believes A. that there is a need for salvation and B. that salvation has been provided.

Public-Choice

10.25.2022 02:42PM

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Con

Tie

Pro

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Reason:

Full forfeiture

ILikePie5

10.20.2022 06:32AM

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Con

Tie

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Points

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Reason:

Full forfeit

RationalMadman

10.15.2022 05:15PM

Criterion

Con

Tie

Pro

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

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2 point(s)

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1 point(s)

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1 point(s)

Reason:

Con FF