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Captain America will beat Batman in a straight up fight

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With 3 votes and 9 points ahead, the winner is ...

Block19
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Given only their abilities as they are described on paper and not based on the feats we see on comic books or film as they have varied wildly throughout the years and different media. They will also only be allowed to use tools and weapons that they carry with them on a normal day, no outside help, no upfront knowledge about the other, no running away to fight another day. This is my first debate on debateart so i want to start with something simple.

Round 1
Pro
I think it is important for us to agree on a foundation for this debate. I believe that captain america would win the fight because while not having meta or super human abilities, all of his human abilities and senses have been pushed to the limit of human potential. He is one of the best hand to hand fighters in the marvel universe, an exceptional tactician, and could outmatch batman in a head to head fight.

I propose that batman knows more fighting styles than capt. and has more tools at his disposal, but it will not be enough to carry the fight.

I would ask that my opponent focus on what is known about the characters in their overall day to day crime fighting history and not use examples that were shown to have occurred in one specific issue of one comic or movie run.
Con
I believe Batman will win a head to head fight. Batman was trained to know all martial arts and trains everyday on his combat, speed, strength and agility. Captain America only trained to improve his speed and strength. He also beat Superman and the Justice League. Beating Captain America in a head to head will just merely be a stepping stone for him.

I maybe would agree that Captain America would win if the match was a No Weapons/Gadgets Match but the fight has no limitations. Due to this fact, Batman clearly has a huge edge with all the gadget he has but Captain America has his mere shield.

Can you please explain to me how Cap would be able to dodge Batman's weapons or fights off all of them with his shield?

Keep in mind that Batman is also an exceptional tactician like Captain America.
Round 2
Pro
I do agree that batman has learned all the martial arts that exist in DCU's earth. However captain america uses a fighting style he himself created, he did so to capitalize on his incredible speed, strength, reflexes, hand eye coordination, and stamina which is superior to any other human.
While batman has beaten superman and other members of the JL, he has never done it without immense preparation, specially crafted armaments (which he does not normally carry on his person), or outside help. So those feats really do not mater.
The fight does have limitations, which i have listed. Batman is allotted any tools and armaments that he is known to carry on his person on a regular basis. I do not think any of which give batman a "significant" advantage over capt. who is quite adept at blocking, dodging, disarming, and disabling people and technology.
Captain america's incredible reflexes and senses give him the ability to dodge a vast array of projectiles, and his shields ability to stop any and all oncoming impact and other forces that batman could pull from his utility belt. Eventually batman will run out of option and have will have to undergo a purely physical/martial fight which will tire him out, this will give capt. the opening he needs to take batman out.

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