Instigator / Pro
0
1587
rating
182
debates
55.77%
won
Topic
#4080

Wylted has reached the peak of debating

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Winner
0
1

After 1 vote and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

PREZ-HILTON
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
2
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Winner selection
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
1
1533
rating
18
debates
36.11%
won
Description

People seem to think Wylted’s skill has progressively declined, but I have a different working theory.

Wylted’s debate skill is currently at its highest form of development. I have strong reasons supporting this conclusion.

Definitions:
Peak- The point at which it is at its strongest, most successful, or most fully developed.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Winner
1 point(s)
Reason:

Pro's case is utterly flawed and as things progress even its strongest points flail.

Con explains that the user Wylted plagiarised an AI in one of the key examples that Pro provided us for Wylted being as his peak. On top of that, Pro says that laziness and being worse mean someone is at their peak and choosing not to be but never ever defends or explains this in a way I can comprehend.

Con says the following:
1. He is Wylted and he knows first-hand that Wylted has been losing memory and raw brain reflexes involved with debating.
2. He is Wylted and first-hand knows that Wylted is bipolar and only at his peak during manic phases. Wylted is wrong to call the (hyper)manic phases hypomanic since hypomanic is the opposite, it's a total lack of mania to the point of depression. Con asserts that Wylted is currently not in a manic phase (wrongly dubbing it hypomanic), he makes this error again and again and makes more S&G errors in Round 2 so often that I'd have docked that point if this was that voting system. It was genuinely hard to follow.
3. He plagiarised one of Pro's key highlights that Wylted is at his peak and what I myself noticed is the debate is over 1.5 years ago. On top of that, Con asserts that even if that was him as his peak, that was him legally copying and pasting the works of another in but correctly sourcing it and exploring it.

Pro tries to handle this in Round 2.

All he does is quote Wylted... Then he says wylted isn't at peak performance but somehow is at peak skill and that even if one isn't executing in a peak way, they kind of are anyway due to potential.

I don't follow this at all, that would mean that a person always was peak if we follow Pro's logic. Okay, so how does Con handle this?

Well there's this kind of 'diminishing IQ' thing but I don't really get it because Con fails to tie IQ itself to be directly proportional to debating ability (it's plausible that at lower IQ one is actually better at debating due to experience, training etc.

What I like is he notices that Con basically dropped the entire case minus saying that peak skill isn't peak performance.

I think the diminishing memory and brain reflex points were significant and it even shows in how hesitant he is to post rounds, he forfeits a lot etc, this part of Wylted was ignored by Pro entirely and for me that can't be someone at their peak at all.