Instigator / Con
13
1587
rating
182
debates
55.77%
won
Topic
#4178

God is real

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
6
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
1
2

After 2 votes and with 1 point ahead, the winner is...

Decisively_Conservatist
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
4
Time for argument
One week
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
14
1500
rating
9
debates
38.89%
won
Description

The BOP is for Pro to disprove any alternate possibility for God's existence, so that the logical conclusion is he exists.
If Con likewise demonstrates that there could be other possible explanations rather than the existence of God, then he wins.

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@Decisively_Conservatist

Ignore him.

BrotherD.Thomas is just trolling you. He's an atheist.

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@BrotherD.Thomas

Oh God the logical fallacies at play here!

ok.

So. Jews started believing in Yahweh. We, christians, truthfully believe that the God came to earth as jesus. Ok, from then on; Muslims DO STILL Prey to Yahweh, however, they falsely believe that He, for whatever reason, would still write a thrid book and use another prophet. All in all, muslims believe in the One True God, but falsely apply characteristics, holy books and prophets to Him. So the Qur'an is still false monsieur.

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@Decisively_Conservatist

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YOUR QUOTE IN THAT ALL 3 ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS BELIEVE IN THE SAME GOD: “From all this, we can find out that all three Abrahamic religions believe in the same God, however, me, as a christian, I believe we have interpreted him the best out of the three religions.”

Since you said that all three Abrahamic religions believe in the same God, then this same god said the following in the Islamic Qur’an:

“Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.” (Qur’an 2:65-66) ............ "The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)

Therefore, like you said, the above same god passages in the Muslim Qur’an show that you have to change your faith from Christianity to being a Muslim. This is simply because this same god scenario, in said passages shown above, will disfigure your face, or turn you into an ape if you don’t believe in him as Allah! Besides, additionally this same God said that the only true faith is Islam!

After you change your faith now to being a Muslim in this same God’s doctrine, as He told you to do, do you want to change the title of the Debate to; “Allah being the same God in all three Abrahamic Religions, is real in the Islamic Qur’an Bible?”

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@BrotherD.Thomas

1) In the OT (recognised by Hebrews), the lord is named Yahweh.
2) In both the old and new Testament (christian), the lord is name Yawheh. However, we christians believe that this God is a trinity. Nonetheless, we still pray to the same god, since he is included in the OT, which is included in our canon.
3) Muslims claim that the Qur'an is the third and final god written version of the previous two (and still soemwhat holy) books, OT and NT. Arabic Christian bibles dedicated for Arab Christians name god as "Allah". Allah literally means "God". It isn't yet another name like Zeus for example.

From all this, we can find out that all three Abrahamic religions believe in the same God, however, me, as a christian, I believe we have interpreted him the best out of the three religions.

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@Decisively_Conservatist

I personally agree with Mps. The description states the BoP is on Pro. Con only needs to disprove of your arguments. This means you should write your argument even if he forfiets his first round.

You only extend if they haven't responded to your arguments.

Hopefully, you know extending is when you have an argument. It's alright if you don't, but this is for future reference.

In my opinion the burden of proof lies on pro, so he shouldn’t have to wait for his opponent to say something.

I don’t like people who forfeit, however, the BOP is on pro, so he should be able to make an argument without one from con.

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@Decisively_Conservatist

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Decisively_Conservatist

YOUR QUOTE WHERE YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY SIMPLE QUESTION: "We are talking specifically about the god of the abrahamic religions, but any being that created the universe (for example yahweh) is suitable.

Huh? The Gods of the. Abrahamic religions are the Hebrew Yahweh, the Hebrew Jesus, AND, the Muslim Allah! Now, are you going to bring forth that these 3 gods ARE THE SAME GOD with the foundation of Abraham, for obvious reasons, and at the same time, these aforementioned God's biblical writings ALL contradict each other! Now what, get it?

I hope you don't mind, but Jesus' words and I will be following this debate, and if you get out of line, we will post your mistakes in the comment section herewith. You can thank us later.

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@BrotherD.Thomas

A) We are talking specifically about the god of the abrahamic religions, but any being that created the universe (for example yahweh) is suitable. However, since Pluto for example does not appear to have created the universe, he is out of the picture.

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@Decisively_Conservatist

Very simple question, you have to put the "horse before the cart" before your debate that was in the primitive Bronze and Iron Age?! HELLO?

Therefore, pick one of the many gods shown below BEFORE you start to debate said topic of "God is Real!"

Azura Mazda, Angus, Belenos, Brigid, Dana, Lugh, Dagda, Epona, Allah Aphrodite, Apollo, Ares, Artemis, Atehna, Demeter, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Gaia, Hades, Hekate, Helios, Hephaestus, Hera, Hermes, Hestia, Pan, Poseidon, Selene, Uranus, Zeus, Mathilde, Elves, Eostre, Frigg, Ganesh, Hretha, Saxnot, Shef, Shiva Thuno, Tir, Vishnu, Weyland, Woden, Yahweh, Alfar, Balder, Beyla, Bil, Bragi, Byggvir, Dagr, Disir, Eir, Forseti, Freya, Freyr, Frigga, Heimdall, Hel, Hoenir, Idunn, Jord, Lofn, Loki, Mon, Njord, Norns, Nott, Odin, Ran, Saga, Sif, Siofn, Skadi, Snotra, Sol, Syn, Ull, Thor, Tyr, Var, Vali, Vidar, Vor, Herne, Holda, Nehalennia, Nerthus, Endovelicus, Ataegina, Runesocesius, Bacchus, Ceres, Cupid, Diana, Janus, Juno, Jupiter, Maia, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Neptune, Pluto, Plutus, Proserpina, Venus, Vesta, Vulcan, Attis, Cybele, Jesus, El-Gabal, Isis, Mithras, Sol Invictus, Endovelicus, Anubis, Aten, Atum, Bast, Bes, Geb, Hapi, Hathor, Heget, Horus, Imhotep, Isis, Khepry, Khnum, Maahes, Ma"at, Menhit, Mont, Naunet, Neith, Nephthys, Nut, Osiris, Ptah, Ra, Sekhmnet, Sobek, Set, Tefnut, Thoth, An, Anshar, Anu, Apsu, Ashur, Damkina, Ea, Enki, Enlil, Yeshua, Ereshkigal, Nunurta, Hadad, Inanna, Ishtar, Kingu, Kishar, Marduk, Mummu, Nabu, Nammu, Nanna, Nergal, Ninhursag, Ninlil, Nintu, Shamash, Sin, Tiamat, Utu, Mitra, Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukiyomi, Inari, Tengu, Izanami, Izanagi, Daikoku, Ebisu, Benzaiten, Bishamonten, Fukurokuju, Jurojin, Hotei, Quetzalcoatl, Tlaloc, Inti, Kon, Mama Cocha, Mama Quilla, Manco Capac, Pachacamac and Zaramama, Vera.

You can thank me later for enlightening you upon said topic.
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