Instigator / Pro
8
1472
rating
32
debates
48.44%
won
Topic
#4420

The American Revolution was Justified

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
0
9
Better sources
2
6
Better legibility
3
3
Better conduct
3
3

After 3 votes and with 13 points ahead, the winner is...

AustinL0926
Judges
Greyparrot's avatar
Greyparrot
4 debates / 20 votes
Voted
whiteflame's avatar
whiteflame
27 debates / 196 votes
Voted
oromagi's avatar
oromagi
117 debates / 397 votes
Voted
WeaverofFate's avatar
WeaverofFate
4 debates / 10 votes
No vote
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Judges
Contender / Con
21
1636
rating
33
debates
93.94%
won
Description

2 forfeitures equal 1 loss.
BOP is shared.

This debate is to address the topic of was the American Revolution (meaning the war and everything that accompanied it) justified. Taking that the Americans started the American Revolution aka started the physical battle, it is safe to say that the argument will really encompass, was America justified to fight against Britain for independence.

No more rules, this debate will be pretty relaxed.

I'll add a vote after my finals on Friday

bump

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@oromagi

I think you'd be very good at arguing the Pro side of this, especially after reading your vote.

To me, one of the great WHAT IFs of world history is what if Great Britain had trusted the wisdom of Voltaire and Hume and Smith and simply offered the whole franchise to the Americas, India, Africa, Middle East- as subjected people rose up and demanded equality, what if Great Britain had simply recognized that equality (that was, essentially, the philosophy of the English elite in the late 18th century). Instead of fighting for control and eventually losing the US, Canada, Australia, Hong Kong, SIngapore, India, South Africa, Egypt, etc what all those peoples were still citizens of the greatest nation ever, with London its capitol? There may still have been world wars but they would probably have come earlier with smaller death toll but I think the UK would have been so dominant that perhap we'd now have something more one world government. Would one world government as defined by England be a sustainable and enduring model? Hard to say with certainty, but I do think that British stinginess with the Imperial citizen franchise cost England a real shot at still being the world's one great superpower.

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@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926

I haven’t forgotten about this guys, I’m working on it.

Heh, I always try to vote first before reading the comments as I want to try to be unbiased.

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@PREZ-HILTON

Four

Three

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@Savant

Thanks! I felt it was a bit below my usual standard, but I think I did enough to uphold my part of the debate.

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@AustinL0926

Don't want to say too much before the judges vote, but excellent job.

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@AustinL0926

I'm definitely guilty as well—perhaps why I'm more keen to notice those kinds of things.

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@Savant

Yes, it was. I'm a real dunce when I wake up in the morning.

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@AustinL0926

I assume "Please vote PRO!" was a typo?

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@PREZ-HILTON

"1. America"

That's right. Second place is for chumps.

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@Savant

Countries that played a role in American revolution

1. America
2. England
3. Cherokee nation
4. Italy
5. France
6. Spain

America won because there was a bigger chess match going on. England just could not hit America with everything they had.

R1 SOURCES:

1: https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/magna-carta-muse-and-mentor/no-taxation-without-representation.html
2: https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/legislativescrutiny/parliament-and-empire/parliament-and-the-american-colonies-before-1765/the-stamp-act-and-the-american-colonies-1763-67/
3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.
4: https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/colonial-life-today/early-american-economics-facts/
5: https://pressbooks-dev.oer.hawaii.edu/ushistory/chapter/confronting-the-national-debt-the-aftermath-of-the-french-and-indian-war/
6: https://www.history.com/topics/american-revolution/boston-massacre
7: https://www.britannica.com/event/American-Revolution
8: https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/american-revolution-faqs
9: https://www.ushistory.org/us/23b.asp
10: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/06/13/cost-of-war-13-most-expensive-wars-in-us-history/39556983/
11. Ibid 4
12. https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/legal-and-political-magazines/british-view-americas-slave-trade

"World History"
So the history of America

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@Savant

Yeah, but I first learned about the American Revolution in World History.

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@Sir.Lancelot

World history? I think you mean American history.

The American Revolution is one of my favorites in World History.

I LOVE this subject!