Instigator / Con
rayhan16's avatar
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rayhan16
1500
rating
25
debates
42.0%
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Topic
#4550

The Quran contains 0 contradictions

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
6
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
2

After 2 votes and with the same amount of points on both sides...

It's a tie!
Tags
Religion
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two days
Max argument characters
20,000
Voting period
Two weeks
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Pro
YouFound_Lxam's avatar
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YouFound_Lxam
1472
rating
32
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Description

I will be Con, and my first round will be absent because I don't hold the burden of proof, Pro does.

Pro needs to prove that the Quran contains at least 1 contradiction.

Round 1
rayhan16's avatar
rayhan16
Con
#1
Pro holds the BOP here so take it away.
YouFound_Lxam's avatar
YouFound_Lxam
Pro
#2
Introduction:
Thank you, Con. Though I was confused about the title of this debate, the description explained it to me more clearly. 
I will be using one major argument in this debate, and if all else fails, then I will resort to multiple different arguments/talking points. 
Now, Con has not laid out any definitions for this debate, so I will lay out the definitions I see fit for this debate. 

Definitions:
Qur'an: The Qur'an, (also Romanized Qur'an or Koran), is the central religious text of Islam, believed by Muslims to be a revelation from God. It is organized in 114 chapters, which consist of verses.
Contradiction: In traditional logic, a contradiction occurs when a proposition conflicts either with itself or established fact. It is often used as a tool to detect disingenuous beliefs and bias.

These two words I believe is important to define.
Now let's get to the argument. 

First Argument:
These are my instructions: "Pro needs to prove that the Quran contains at least 1 contradiction."
This is my answer: 

In the Qur'an it states in Surah 6:115," The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all." 
It also states in Surah 18:27," And recite (and teach) what has been revealed to thee of the Book of thy Lord: none can change His Words, and none wilt thou find as a refuge other than Him." 

Now, if this is true, that would mean any text that Allah wrote, cannot be changed, nor corrupted. In other words, his words are set in stone per say. 
But as we all know, this is not true. In verse 3 of Surah Al-Imran it states," He has sent down to you the Book of Truth confirming the previous books, and He has sent down the Torah and the Gospel." 
This means that Allah has written and sent down both the Torah, and the Bible (basically Old and New Testaments) to us the people. 
In turn, this means that according to the Qur'an, the Bible is literally the word of God. 

Now, Muslims from all over the world when presented with this argument will say according to the Qur'an that the Bible had been corrupted by man. Corrupted. And they use these verses to try and prove it: 

Sura 3:78: And there is indeed a group among them who twist their tongues with the book, that you may suppose it to be from the book. But it is not from the book. And they say, “It is from God,” though it is not from God. And they knowingly speak a lie against God.

Sura 4:46: Among those who are Jews are those who distort the meaning of the word, and say, “We hear and disobey,” and “Hear, as one who hears not!” and “Attend to us!” twisting their tongues and disparaging religion. And had they said, “We hear and obey” and “Listen” and “Regard us,” it would have been better for them and more proper. But God cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.

Now, here is the question:
If the Bible/Gospel, is literally the word of God, and Gods word cannot be corrupted, then why does the Quran also say Gods word can be corrupted, and also say the Bible is not the word of God?
Round 2
rayhan16's avatar
rayhan16
Con
#3
Me and YouFoundLiam have both decided that this debate would be a tie because the format is wrong, I apologise and the next debate will be one that Liam creates. 
YouFound_Lxam's avatar
YouFound_Lxam
Pro
#4
Forfeited
Round 3
rayhan16's avatar
rayhan16
Con
#5
Extend
YouFound_Lxam's avatar
YouFound_Lxam
Pro
#6
Forfeited
Round 4
rayhan16's avatar
rayhan16
Con
#7
extend
YouFound_Lxam's avatar
YouFound_Lxam
Pro
#8
Forfeited
Round 5
rayhan16's avatar
rayhan16
Con
#9
extend
YouFound_Lxam's avatar
YouFound_Lxam
Pro
#10
Forfeited