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Farm Communism is better than Capitalism

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Description

Farm Communism definition is:
An economical system where each adult person owns a piece of land where he farms animals or plants, except some people who do other work to maintain those farms and build houses.

Capitalism definition:
An economical system which exists in the world today in most countries, where there are many factories and means of production are owned by few people who employ many workers.

Better will be meassured by these:
1. Giving more free time to people
2. Improving environment
3. Producing more healthy food
4. Increasing amount of forests and grasslands

Should Farm Communism win on 2 or more of these issues, Pro wins then.

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Round 1
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TheGreatSunGod
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#1
Thanks misesgummies, for accepting.

Love that profile photo.


Farm Communism definition is:
An economical system where each adult person owns a piece of land where he farms animals or plants, except some people who do other work to maintain those farms and build houses.

Capitalism definition:
An economical system which exists in the world today in most countries, where there are many factories and means of production are owned by few people who employ many workers.

Better will be meassured by these:
1. Giving more free time to people
2. Improving environment
3. Producing more healthy food
4. Increasing amount of forests and grasslands


Now, farm Communism would mean no more factories, so that is much better for environment, obviously. And for forests and grasslands too.

Humans only have 4 basic needs:
1. Food
2. Water
3. Shelter
4. Heating and cooling

Farm Communism satisfies all these needs.

Animals or plants on a farm produce fresh food, which is much healthier than food from the store.

Due to the fact that producing food for self takes much less than 8 hours a day, people would have much more free time.
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misesgummies
Con
#2
You might be correct in saying that "Farm Communism" could fulfill all 4 basic human needs. These needs as you defined are: food, water, shelter, heating and cooling. Although that last one is dubious to be called a need. But a capitalist economy is most efficient at providing for human needs and then some. If you are correct about it taking 8 hours of labor to provide for oneself, this number is still far more time expended for food production than in a capatalist economy

In a economy where people echange goods and services, there will be people that specilize their skills. Food production is the same. In current economic system (to call america capatalist is a bit of a strech but we will for the sake of the argument) there are people specilized for food production. This gives more time for people to specilize in things that are not strictly neccesary for survival. So point 1: it will give people more free time, is false

Point 2 about improving the enviroment is also false. Under true capatalism, monopolys would be far more rare than they currently are
Point 3 about more healthy food being produced is correct but only ironically so. There will be more healthy food being produced becuase people wouldnt have the ability to make processed food. They would be more focused on survival. Under capatalism, eating healthy food is a choice. Respecting peoples wishes of free trade thus protecting their natural rights is far more important
point 4: incressing forests and grasslands
people in capitalist economies can choose to care for the environment
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