Instigator / Pro
14
1266
rating
119
debates
15.97%
won
Topic
#617

Marx's analysis of capitalism was mostly accurate.

Status
Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics
Better arguments
6
6
Better sources
4
4
Better legibility
2
2
Better conduct
2
2

After 2 votes and with the same amount of points on both sides...

It's a tie!
Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
Three days
Max argument characters
30,000
Voting period
One week
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
14
1476
rating
2
debates
25.0%
won
Description

No information

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

Completely unproven by both sides. I found no reason to even remotely regard one single argument.

Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:

1.) pro must outline what the analysis of capitalism is by Marx (he only vaguely does this).
2.) pro must show this analysis matches the reality of actual capitalism (he barely - if at all does this).

Con points out that pro hasn’t established his position - and I agree. Therefore I cannot award arguments to pro. However con has to make a case also that marx was not accurate - this was marginal only by con. Con argues that the objections Marx raised are issues with humans in general not with capitalism.

As he mostly just asserts these, just as he accuses pro of doing - I have scant reason to rule in cons favor either. As a reader I’m left with not knowing whether Marx was mostly accurate or not - so I’m forced to award arguments as a draw.

Conduct - I normall award points automatically for the forfeit - but as con was petulant, and didn’t raise an argument in round 1 - this balances out, so I am forced to award conduct as a tie.