Instigator / Pro

jonrohith

1500

rating

debates

56.25%

won

Topic

#6186

HISTORY IS NOT ANYMORE NEEDED

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 1 vote and with 5 points ahead, the winner is...

AdaptableRatman

Judges

TheRizzler

10 debates / 53 votes

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History

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Publication date: 05.23.2025 03:37PM
Last updated date: 05.25.2025 03:32AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 1
Time for argument: One day
Max argument characters: 1,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Judges

Contender / Con

AdaptableRatman

1522

rating

debates

60.0%

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Round 1

jonrohith

05.24.2025 03:17AM

Pro

Welcome:

History:

What is history?. History is a old topic it overs our primitive,. But why we need that , we need that just for entertainment , like where the treasure was in ,where the king was buried,

BUT WHY WE NEED THAT:

Can you tell a logical reason why we need history, History is a fake topic, it includes manipulation of old waste thing to attract tourists. they seeing old mummies as god, but many people in africa lives like mummies due to starvation. Is any benefit we get from brushing . historical places are used to manipulate people to come there, majority of historical places and stories are fake. no one can give an exact percentage like "34.5% of history is fake" 😅, experts agree on this:

A significant portion of historical stories are either exaggerated, biased, incomplete, or sometimes totally fabricated. by chatgpt

AdaptableRatman

05.25.2025 02:27AM

Con

Let's say a male pedophile with a known record is the new boyfriend of your female relative/friend.

The following elements apply:

His past and SO registry.
The past of other pedophiles and likelihood to reoffend
the history of other hetero couples and plausibility he will have kids with her (as far back as Old Testament)
The history of others in your shoes and how best to caution your female friend/relative
The history of his side of the history.

The entire law enforcement, psychiatric, sociological and whatever else involved all requires history.

History

a chronological record of significant events (such as those affecting a nation or institution) often including an explanation of their causes

: a treatise presenting systematically related natural phenomena (as of geography, animals, or plants)

: an account of a patient's medical background
reviewing her medical history

: an established record
a prisoner with a history of violence

merriam-webster

You need it often in life.

TheRizzler

05.25.2025 03:19AM

PRO ROUND ONE CLEARER ENGLISH TRANSLATION

Welcome
History:
What is history? History is an old subject that covers our primitive past. But why do we need it? Some say it's just for entertainment—like finding out where treasure was hidden or where a king was buried.

BUT WHY DO WE NEED IT?
Can anyone give a logical reason why we actually need history? Some argue that history is a fake subject, filled with manipulated stories and outdated things meant to attract tourists. For example, people treat ancient mummies like gods, while in reality, many people in Africa live in mummy-like conditions due to starvation.

What benefit do we really get from studying the past? Historical sites are often used to manipulate people into visiting. In fact, many historical places and stories are fake or heavily exaggerated. Of course, no one can say something like “34.5% of history is fake” 😅—but even experts agree on this:

A significant portion of historical stories are exaggerated, biased, incomplete, or sometimes completely fabricated. – by ChatGPT

jonrohith

05.25.2025 02:56AM

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@TheRizzler

I said about general history ,But con is out of contest ,he is saying about different departments like medical ,that is not fair.

jonrohith

05.25.2025 02:49AM

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@TheRizzler

VOTE WHEN YOU HAVE TIME.

AdaptableRatman

05.25.2025 02:28AM

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@TheRizzler

Hello judge, please vote when you have time. 🙏

TheRizzler

05.25.2025 03:32AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Con won the debate for a couple of reasons:
1. Pro failed to provide definitions in the description or beginning of the debate. Con showed that criminal records would be considered 'history' according to Merriam Webster and he showed that criminal records are indeed 'needed'.
2. Con provided actual sources via links for any claims he made. He likewise used Merriam Webster for definitions, which is a well-known and reputable source. Pro's only source for his claim was 'ChatGPT' which is not considered a reliable source any more than Wikipedia is (In fact ChatGPT pulls information from Wikipedia all the time).

In conclusion, Con attacked this debate from an angle that Pro was unprepared for. In future debates, I would advise Jonrohith to clearly lay out all important terms and definitions in the description to avoid this kind of scenario.