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#6219

One should defend the weak against the powerful

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Enjoy trip , don't waste your time for people like me, i have more time these days, so i am freee

meow whiteflame

sorry , i not know about your situation

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@fauxlaw
@jonrohith

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>Reported Vote: fauxlaw // Mod action: Removed
>Voting Policy: info.debateart.com/terms-of-service/voting-policy
>Points Awarded: 1 to Pro
>Reason for Decision:
Resolution; "One should defend the weak against the powerful" This is deceptively simple, and Pro's primary BoP is one of morality, and neither "fineness" to enable defense, nor necessarily superior strategy to overcome superior power, but merely the will to defend, regardless of outcome.
Con's mistake is attempting to imply by "defend" that this requires adequate "fitness" and declares this is a Darwinian principle that superior "fitness" equals superior power, thus the bolted statement leading Con's argument: "when the weak are constantly supported by the powerful, they become even weaker. " By this claim, it is obvious, for example, that the British, having the superior armed forces durns the American Revolution, should have been victorious. Con's argument is defeated by Pro's superior argument that, one, :"fitness" does not necessarily equate to greater strength, but greater will. Thus,
pro's superior argument "Power or Weakness is a Mindset." pro acknowledges that physical strength may, indeed overwhelm weakness of mind, but Con is unsuccessful in rebutting the original Resultion that it weakness is not merely depended on physical strength to overcome a greater power.
Therefore, Pro's Reolution, and his strength of argument for it, wins.

>Reason for Mod Action:
The voter does go through specific points made by both debaters, but seems to attribute them to opposite sides, so it's hard to tell whether this vote is awarding points correctly. The reasoning needs some clarification.
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Meow Akbar!

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@jonrohith

Maybe just accept that it’s a Sunday morning here, that I’m planning for a trip today and have limited time, that I nonetheless woke up and quickly tried to respond to you, then apologized for my error. Maybe don’t be a jerk about it.

ok, If any other ask you will remove quick , if i ask you will question 100 times.

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@jonrohith

It will have to wait. I’ve got more than enough on my plate this morning.

Its time to remove vote, he can revote as you[whiteflame] found the mistake.

here evening

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@fauxlaw
@jonrohith

Alright, there does appear to be some confusion of who has which points, as some are ascribed to the wrong debater. Sorry, it’s early in the morning here.

Fauxlaw, you’re probably going to have to rewrite this one. Not really sure which side you think did better based on the arguments you’re quoting and emphasizing.

how my argument makes opponent win ,

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@whiteflame

"💪 Power or Weakness is a Mindset
In nature, no one is born powerful or permanently weak. These are not fixed labels.
Anyone can become strong — it depends on the mindset, effort, and experience."

This is said by me, check my argument.

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@whiteflame

he said that pro is saying that sentence, but pro not said that or related to it, in fact that is said by me

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@fauxlaw
@jonrohith

I don’t think fauxlaw is confused here. It’s strange for him to put those words in quotes when they weren’t directly stated in the debate, but he’s referencing your arguments on fitness, not your opponent’s. And much as the specific words “Power or Weakness is a Mindset” don’t appear in the debate in that order, he is clear about what arguments he’s referencing when he discusses that. So I disagree that he’s creating new arguments just by giving them new titles, and his analysis takes into account individual points that do come from the debate. This vote would stand under the voting policy.

fauxlaw is creating new arguments , instead of analyzing the arguments.

moreover fauxlaw added his own words like[ "fitness" does not necessarily equate to greater strength, but greater will. Thus,
pro's superior argument "Power or Weakness is a Mindset."] he say these are said by pro, but pro tells nothing of these.

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@whiteflame

Remove the vote of fauxlaw, i think he is confused , in his reason he saying that pro said" power or weakness is a mindset" but you can check pro never said this in his argument, that is told in my argument, how can he vote for pro by saying my arguments.

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@LucyStarfire

no problemo////: )

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@vi_777

Thank you for vote!

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@WyIted

I doubt that. No one likes your standards.

In the Arena we allow the weak to die and only the strong remain. https://www.neoseeker.com/forums/68409/

So many boomers in this world.

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@jonrohith

Oh, look — another CLASSIC example of someone losing an argument and then whining about how their opponent made it. Let me spell this out for you: using technology does not mean you outsource your brain to it. There's a difference between refining your ideas and replacing them. You think you're edgy calling people “uncles” for expecting you to string a coherent sentence together in the language you're debating in? It’s not being an uncle, it’s being educated. If basic grammar hurts your ego, maybe the real problem isn’t the platform — it’s your inability to use it well. You're ranting about “people who oppose technology” while failing to realise it’s not the tool, it’s the user. A debate is not won by who used ChatGPT — it’s won by who knew what they were doing. And clearly, you didn’t. Also, news flash: calling someone out for being illogical, incoherent, or for plagiarising content without understanding it is not being old-school — it’s being honest. So don’t deflect with your prehistoric “stone age” comment. We’re not in the stone age, but clearly, your arguments still are. So next time, before you accuse someone of using tools — learn to sharpen your own. Because right now, you’re swinging around a blunt stick and calling it a sword.

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@TheRizzler
@IamAdityaDhaka

Go and debate on stage why you using this platform. I can't understand why such people opposing use of new technologies , These uncles want to live in stone age, but mistake they are born now.

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@TheGreatSunGod
@jonrohith

So let me get this straight — the con wants to debate constitutional rights and serious issues like free speech, but struggles to frame a single coherent sentence in English? If we're here to debate in English, the bare minimum expectation is clarity of language. This isn’t a WhatsApp group argument — this is a debate platform where your command over the language you choose to debate in actually matters.

If your base essay needs to be rewritten entirely by AI to make sense to readers, maybe spend more time understanding the language before entering high-stakes debates on constitutional logic. Debate is not just about throwing around buzzwords like “tool” and “knife” — it’s abomut structuring thoughts clearly, presenting rational arguments, and yes, knowing the language you’re speaking in.If you can't even express a point without grammatical chaos, why exactly are you debating its importance?

Base essay is written by me and its style and grammar is improved by chatgpt for better understanding of all people.

ok.

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@jonrohith

No, I mean, if powerful attack the weak, one should defend the weak even if it means standing up to powerful then.

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@TheGreatSunGod

Can you clarify me this topic, I think you saying Powerful people should protect weak people, whether it is mentally or physically.