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Topic
#6320

Is it ethical for parents to try to prevent or “change” their child’s homosexuality?

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Number of rounds
3
Time for argument
One day
Max argument characters
10,000
Voting period
Two weeks
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Description

Pro- Duh
Con-oh hell no

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@Shane.Roy
@IamAdityaDhaka

I'm going to ask that you both take a breath here and refrain from attacking each other too personally in these responses. Seeing a lot of attacks on each other personally that stretch the limits of the CoC.

@Shane lines like "I'd personally strap you down into their office for mental examination" and "Although maybe if your parents did physically whiplash you more, you wouldn't be a brat with an over inflated ego" are particularly inappropriate.

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@Shane.Roy

I can't help but laugh. Stop throwing tantrums on me ans lucystarfire. There it is. The fragile masculinity manifesto disguised as feedback. Tell me, did you write that before or after crying into your ‘Debate Champion 2017’ certificate from Model UN?

Let’s start with your ‘critique’, if you can call that deeply unhinged monologue critique. You didn’t just miss the point; you boarded a flight out of the realm of relevance, crash-landed into casual racism, and built a hut out of insecurity.

Saying my parents should’ve hit me?
You just confessed to fantasizing about child abuse, and you think I’m the unfit one to debate? What you need isn’t a vote button — it’s a therapist with a cancellation policy tough enough to handle your projection issues.

Calling me a brat with an over-inflated ego?
You wrote a full essay with emotional breakdown energy, spat out slurs, and still somehow sounded like a rejected Philosophy major trying to prove his IQ with Grammarly on. Spoiler: it didn’t work.

And oh, the 'Indian carnivals' jab?
Cute. Racism and cultural elitism, the last resort of someone who knows they lost the argument but wants to feel like they won the war. Keep the fake generosity, and don’t act like your “rupees in the mail” wasn’t laced with colonial-level condescension. Do send it, will frame them besides your “failed to be relevant certificate”, you don’t sound superior. You sound like a 19th-century missionary trapped in a Discord mod’s body.

As for dragging my bio? The fact that you had to scroll down to quote it means I left an impact. You can call it ego. I call it not being a doormat for strangers who wear fake civility like it’s deodorant. Spoiler: it doesn’t cover the stench. I can only imagine how low your esteem is, that you are explaining you entire bio just because I mentioned it once. Get a life!

You said I don’t belong here? Darling, I don’t belong in your version of a debate space — where emotion is weakness, logic is gatekept by bigotry, and fragile boys with internet access pretend their tantrums are TED Talks. You think you ended me, but all you did was showcase how low people stoop when they can’t handle being challenged.

And no, I’m not silencing myself. You don’t get to tell me when to stop speaking. You’re not my judge or my intellectual equal. You’re just background noise. Have

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@Shane.Roy

Keep talking nonsense.

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@LucyStarfire

Dumb = Not smart or showing poor judgment.

If giving an effective analysis along with a critique signals strong poor judgement, or strong "lack of smartness" in your perception. then you're not long for this world.
If you prefer being a masochistic punching bag, I do not discriminate.

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@IamAdityaDhaka

"I am a man of Jesus Christ.
I am completely against gay sexuality and do not support it, tho I do not see those people as consisting of anything less than equal to heterosexuals."

This is the section of bio this person deems as "hateful".
It indicates that I'm a firm Christian believer and am mentally against gay sexuality.
I also clearly mentions that I do not deem gays as unequal.
An individual holding an opinion which you may not have is not mere "hate".
Grow up

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@IamAdityaDhaka

It's a voter indicating your flaws and providing strong critique. Something you may clearly not be used to receiving.
Whats really a superiority complex is you unprofessionally ranting on and on without providing a mere basis of logic.
If I genuinely sounded like Chatgpt as you suggest, I'm clearly significantly more "scholarly" than you.
This debate did not emotionally "whiplash" me. Although maybe if your parents did physically whiplash you more, you wouldn't be a brat with an over inflated ego.
I cited your bio in order to put your arrogance into perspective for the audience rather than merely "rage scrolling", which clearly worked successfully by sparking yet another adolescent tantrum. Which further proves my points in the vote description.
Your "comedic roasts" don't empower you. They are sad and painful testament to the type of individual you are. Rude, arrogant, desperately needing a reality check and not fit to engage in a civil conversation.
Lastly, those sites were genuine gestures of kindness, if that vote really led you to write a 200 word reply 10 minutes after the vote was made, you really do need TalkToAngel. Unfortunately, I do not live in India, or I'd personally strap you down into their office for mental examination. However, I will send in the mail how ever many "rupees" you may need to cover to costs if necessary.
If you cannot calmly receive critique, then you don't belong on this debating site. And judging by your prideful way of speaking coupled with your stage performances. You really do belong in those Indian carnivals I recommended (still as a kind gesture).
I would strongly advise you to now silence yourself, as you've already made enough of a fool of yourself, and your parent's method of parenting which fostered an individual such as yourself.

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@IamAdityaDhaka

Some voters are very dumb. It happens.

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@Shane.Roy

I have got standards so I will not go on and brag about your bio in which you claim to be hating gays

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@Shane.Roy

And maybe you can also use the therapy to understand the pain of children who suicide because of pressure by their parents to change their homosexuality.

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@Shane.Roy

Oh, look, a voter trying so hard to sound scholarly, they ended up sounding like ChatGPT having a superiority complex. Your entire feedback was basically an insecure fanfiction about how calm the Pro was and how personally offended you were that I didn’t speak like a TED Talk intern.

Calling my argument ‘adolescent’? you’re out here writing 300 words dissecting my tone like a rejected drama critic with a WiFi connection. If this debate gave you emotional whiplash, maybe the issue isn’t the argument: it’s your paper-thin threshold for discomfort.

You want citations for lived reality? Should I quote peer-reviewed trauma too, or will you need subtitles for that as well?

And dragging my bio into it? That’s not critique, that’s you rage-scrolling my profile because deep down you realized — I said what you were too polite, too sanitized, and too spineless to say.

Keep your backhanded “kind gestures.” TalkToAngel? Sweetheart, I suggest you go first — and ask them why you confuse confidence with arrogance and compassion with ‘carnival.’

Next time you vote, try using your brain instead of your biases. Maybe use those therapy links to learn how to be unbiased, I will pay for it. I give as good as I get.

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@Umbrellacorp

They try to prevent homosexuality by bullying a child, usually telling him that he will burn in hell or get terrible disease, or by shaming him, disowning him, beating him...ect.

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@Umbrellacorp

Um ok

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@21Pilots

What an absurd topic. And how do you prevent your child's homosexuality mr.21pilots? Funniest thing i have read in a while.

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@IamAdityaDhaka

Of course
It was my mistake.

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@21Pilots

I understand. Can I just make my argument this round and you publish a longer argument?

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@IamAdityaDhaka

I am truely sorry for forfeiting the first round, I was at a cultural festival and lost track of time.
I have prepared for this but it seems that I put it into one day which wasn’t what I intended.
If it is ok with you, I would appreciate it if you skipped round 1

Thank you for understanding.

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@21Pilots

My parents tried to prevent my homosexuality, and people around me mocked me for my "gay behavior". Now they wish I was gay.

Well, nvm then ig

Honestly, 1 week. I know that's a lot of time and I understand if you don't want to be waiting up to a week for my arguments. However, I'm crazy busy at work these days. I have to work overtime almost every day. I might still accept if the time for argument is 3 days however. I'll have to think about it.

How much time would you like?

I may just accept this one, then. I would prefer more time to write arguments, however. I have a very busy schedule.

Yes
Pro is to say yes it is ethical
Con is to say no it isnt

To be clear, you intend to take the Pro position?