Should Western Countries Ban Burkhas?
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This debate centers on the growing controversy in Western nations over the use of the burkha and other full-face coverings in public spaces. In recent years, several countries—including France, Belgium, Denmark, and now Switzerland—have introduced laws banning such garments, citing concerns about public safety, gender equality, and the integration of immigrants into society. Supporters of these bans argue that they are necessary to protect secular values, ensure women’s rights, and maintain open communication in public life. Opponents, however, contend that such laws unfairly target Muslim women, restrict religious freedom, and risk further marginalizing minority communities.
We will explore both sides: Should Western countries continue or expand these bans, or are they an infringement on individual rights and cultural diversity?
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'" Sahih Bukhari 4:52:260Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." Sahih Bukhari 9:83:17A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Muadh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Muadh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu`adh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle. Sahih Bukhari 9:89:271By Allah, Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate." Sahih Bukhari 9:83:37No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection." Sahih Bukhari 9:84:64
Ahmad takes the words of Surah 33.26, "Some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners" as the foundation of his theory that, while some of the more serious offenders may have been proscribed, the bulk of the tribe was probably exiled like the others. At first sight it does seem strange that Muhammad should despatch the whole tribe while he had let the others go free, but there is concrete evidence that he had intended to execute the Banu Qaynuqa in the same way.According to Ibn Sa'd (Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, Vol. 2, p. 32-33), when the tribe surrendered, Muhammad ordered his companions to tie the men's hands behind their backs to prepare them for beheading. It was only the remonstrances of Abdullah ibn Ubayy, then still too influential to be refused that made him abandon their execution and order their banishment instead.What is most significant about Ahmad's assessment of the historical genuineness of the massacre is that, in querying it, he finds himself free from the need to justify Muhammad and accordingly treats it for what it really was - an unjustifiable atrocity. He says:No one could come out of such a holocaust - 600 to 900 killed in cold blood in one day - without damage to his personality. 'All and Zubayr's holocaust legacy of massive deadness would not have left them in peace. (Ahmad, Muhammad and the Jews, p. 86).
To behold the slaughter of many men in battle is indeed one thing - to unemotionally witness the execution of a whole tribe is another entirely. Ahmad continues:The very idea of such a massacre by persons who neither before nor after the killing showed any sign of a dehumanised personality is inadmissible from a psychological point of view. (Ahmad, Muhammad and the Jews, p. 87).
Ahmad has challenged a story whose historical accuracy has hitherto never been questioned and, while the external evidences may weigh against him, he is to be commended for seeing the tragedy for what it truly was - in his own words, a "massacre" and a "holocaust".In their determination to exonerate Muhammad the Muslims have found themselves in an awkward situation. If they admit the story, they find themselves obliged to counter the suggestion that it had the nature of an atrocity. If, however, this is conceded, they strive to challenge the reliability of the narratives! Either way none dares admit that Muhammad was the leading figure, or at least a willing accomplice, in a "holocaust".Shortly before the conquest of Mecca Muhammad attacked the remaining Jewish fortress at Khaibar and, while not gaining an outright victory, nevertheless brought it into subjection. Here he was poisoned by a Jewish woman. Although she did not succeed in killing him, Muhammad complained to the day of his death of the effects of her act of revenge. Ibn Sa'd says she was put to death (Vol. 2, p. 249), but this is disputed by Bukhari who states that Muhammad refused to sanction her execution (Vol. 3, p. 475). Which of the two is true, "God only knows".By the end of his life Muhammad's relationship with the Jews had deteriorated to the point of irreconcilable hostility. We have not spoken of his relationships with the Christians, which seem to have been a bit more amicable though much less frequent, but his contacts with their armies during his latter days seems to have hardened his heart against them also. The later passages of the Qur'an breathe out denunciations of both groups in vehement language. This tradition tells its own story:It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattab that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims. (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 3, p. 965).
This same Umar, on becoming Caliph just two years after Muhammad's death, proceeded dutifully to put this injunction into effect and by the end of his reign all the Jews in the Hijaz had duly been
- Security protocols already address identification concerns: In most Western countries, authorities can require individuals to temporarily remove face coverings for identification purposes, such as during security checks or when verifying identity for official documents. Even in conservative Muslim-majority countries like Saudi Arabia, women are required to show their faces for security checks3. This means that the presence of a burkha does not prevent law enforcement from confirming someone's identity when necessary.
- No evidence of widespread misuse: The argument that burkhas are used to conceal criminal activity is largely hypothetical and not supported by significant evidence of widespread misuse in Western societies. The vast majority of Muslim women who wear burkhas do so out of personal, cultural, or religious conviction, not for nefarious purposes.
- Bans may increase, not decrease, security risks: Blanket bans on burkhas can exacerbate social tensions and discrimination, potentially increasing feelings of alienation and marginalization among Muslim communities. This social exclusion can, in some cases, create conditions more conducive to radicalization than the presence of religious attire itself.
- Freedom of religion and expression: Western democracies are founded on principles of individual liberty, including the right to religious expression. Singling out Muslim women for restrictions undermines these core values and can be seen as discriminatory.
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Saudi, is more liberal now then even many of western countries. They are making dajjal's headquarter names as neon city. Why complaining now?
Tell me one thing how a woman is free if she shows her face and not free if she hides? A woman is free if she can choose what they wants, whether it's showing her face or hiding her face.
Yes wonderful when women of west go to Saudi in Ramadan they are so free.
Nice first round argument.