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"Rich" people sould never buy a second hand things
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Round 1
Firstly I would like to thank my rival for accepting my challenge I count on heaving a superb debate between us.
To kick off, I would like to recall Winona Ryder's famous quote "Most of my wardrobe is vintage and I've worn dresses to the Oscars that I got for $10,”
This gives us the perfect example of how perspective life is. Winona, an Oscar nominee, besides the fact that she lacks no money, she could have chosen her most luxurious, expensive and fancy outfit, especially on that big stage that she was at. So why, you might ask, why did she choose to wear that “cheap” dress?
I'll tell you why, it's because only by respecting and presenting her clothes proudly, she gave them their own value, no one knew nor suspected a thing until she revield her secret.
Here is a photo of Winona Ryder, 2000 : https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vogue.co.uk%2Ffashion%2Fgallery%2Fvintage-oscar-dresses&psig=AOvVaw3IMWw5_mchy7PoNkHwaIW2&ust=1756596492133000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBUQjRxqFwoTCOCAv4GWsY8DFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
And that goes to everything, and I mean everything, you're the one who gives them their value. You could wear first hand, personalized handmade vesture and nobody would flinch if you're won't cherish it and give it the stage it deserves.
Thanks to today's world everything is in reach especially if it's second hand due to the amount of options that we have to obtain it from, both in fiscal or online and only because of that someone is "rich" it doesn't mean he needs to fall into this matrix code of "buy new and the most expensive the better" that provokes major problems that leads me to my second argument, the overproduction that we suffer with we can't ignore that its snowballing out of control.
Out of 100 billion clothing items produced annually, only 60 to 70% are actually sold to consumers, and only 30 to 40% of items sold fetch the full retail price. Most retailers that suffer from overproduction issues need to provide substantial markdowns to get their inventory out the door. Many more items end up as deadstock that fails to sell.
Science nowadays it's sims like an insult to wear something that was already worn by someone else, the companies production has boomed and a large amount isn't even getting sold
To sum up, I wanted to make sure I'm transmitting my point loud and clear, I'm not against first hand buys, I just ask whether it's really necessary. Who knows, there's most likely someone out there who wants to get rid of the identical item that you're looking for.
Thank you for your attention
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Overproduction issues:
Firstly, I’d like to thank my opponent for taking part in this debate. I’m looking forward to a strong exchange of ideas.
Let me start with a simple question: who actually needs second-hand goods the most? The answer is obvious — people with limited financial resources. Second-hand markets exist as a safety net, offering affordable clothing, furniture, and everyday items to those who cannot afford brand new.
When rich people come into this market, they are not helping. Instead, they bring in competition with poor consumers. Thrift and second-hand shops already have their prices rise because affluent consumers and resellers are driving demand. Something that the poor could afford is now being sold as "trendy" or "vintage" so that it is less accessible to those who genuinely need it.
And now, some recommend buying second-hand battles overproduction. Come on — overproduction happens before a foot enters a store. Whether a billionaire ends up buying used later on or not doesn't matter to the fact that 100 billion new clothing items are still being made every year. If change is what we really want, affluent individuals should invest in sustainable brands, mindful production, and innovative fabrics — all of which actually address the problem at its root.
And finally, rich people wield power. They spend money that speaks. When an actress is seen wearing a $10 dress, it may be philanthropic, but think about all the designers, workers, and companies that live off new purchases. By shopping new — and shopping responsibly — the rich keep jobs alive, put food on the table for creativity, and pay for progress.
In brief: second-hand shopping is essential, but should be reserved for those who require it most. The affluent have an obligation not to tap into that pool, but instead to use their resources to support sustainable, first-hand economies that drive genuine solutions.
Thank you
Round 2
Whether a billionaire ends up buying used later on or not doesn't matter to the fact that 100 billion new clothing items are still being made every year.
all of which actually address the problem at its root.
Thank you very much for outline the problem to us all, our society has involved to be "normal" and seeing 100 billion copies of regular clothes fabricated every year its the proof that most people don't pursue the "original" or as you said the creativity that some marvelous artists have to offer. But from the beginning this market is built on offer and demand.
With merely a small change, especially on those who buy first hand the most, we could offer a one-size-fits-all solution for both:
The environment by reducing the fabrics of all them clothes, toys, furnitures, books, motorcycle, music instruments and on and on...
And those ones that you mentioned who are important for you, the people who wants to sell their unused things and the fact that there is going to be less regular every-day clothes it will leave a room to
all the designers, workers, and companies
to prosper and show everyone what they're really capable of.
It is essential to make no mistake , I'll repeat,I'm not against first hand nevertheless handmade, the other way around, as my proposal speaks for itself my solution will help them the most along side all the rest.
The best place to cross the ideal dream that I'm talking about must be a market, a place where both rich and poor go to look share interest and buy second hand and handmade things.
An example of one of those markets can be any of the Paris Flea Markets, with the first one that comes to mind the famous Les Puces De Saint-Ouen market, totaling more than 5 million visitors per year, among whom many foreign tourists and very often even celebrities.
There, we can see how second hand things are not only for the poor, with vintage pisces that goes up to jaws dropping prices you can find one of the most popular ways where people resell there next to none finds.
From antiques to treasures that are no where to be found, from a signed jerseys to used on stage costumes.
A combination of pure culture and memories that the public gets to live thanks to the resells markets
Taking everything into consideration, I believe that buying second hand does not need to matter on whether you're rich or not notwithstanding on "those who require it most" but to everyone. Without needing to worry about your place on the economic pyramid.
Thank you for your attention.
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