Meme War

I'm sorry, was that suppose to be a rebuttal of self evidence? Would you like to actually make a claim against it?

Because otherwise, you're just wasting oxygen on the conversation.

Self-evidence LOL! That is called gambling on the truth based on what you think you know.

I was waiting for you to say that. I don't hold the same belief you do. My Axioms are justified through the principle of self evidence and then I can use the consistency of reality to achieve congruence between my senses and my a priori knowledge. So my a priori knowledge has justification (unlike yours) the fact that it's congruent with reality means that it also shares the consistency of reality.

You could do this too, if you weren't epistemologically cutting yourself off at the knee caps.

You're making a skeptical claim, but you have no claim to back it up. If your skepticism wasn't so unnecessarily broad, this wouldn't be a problem for you

Yeah you can't know if yours are either, genius.

A justification has to be able to verify the soundness of your knowledge. Since you gamble, you cannot verify it, therefore, you have no justification for you knowledge. That means all knowledge claims you make are unsound because we can't know if your Axioms are grounded by chance or ungrounded by chance.

Gambling on something being true despite being unknowable is justifiable if you want to stay sane, yes I agree. I need to feel you are real to a degree in order to not absolutely fucking lose my mind with the knowable truth; that you're one of many simulated characters.

Cool, then what's the justification for your claim then since you're not in your solipsism bubble anymore. Also, if you justify your claim, does that mean you admit that knowledge is justifiable?

You will not be escorting me anywhere.

So instead of weighing them all against each other, you just picked the top 1 and ignored the rest in the weighting? Vote-bomb.

Haha you always think I'm up to something. This is not what happened. I have nothing against either of these users. I looked at every meme and the one in my RFD was the one that I found to be the most amusing.

I never made such a claim. See how that works?

The statement you just made is a knowledge claim. You believe all knowledge is fallacious, therefore your claim is fallacious.

For future reference, anytime you step out of your solipsism bubble and claim ANYTHING, I will kindly escort you back into your bubble where you think you belong.

Who are you to call a debate lost or won? See how that works?

You're advocating for censorship. Who are you to call a thought genuine? You think all thoughts are fallacious, how can you even have a standard for a genuine thought?

I don't care about having equal liberals to conservatives. Conservatives are usually less rational in the first place but that's still not reason to exclude the minority of them who are rational (or to ignore the minority of progs/libs who are very poor at comprehending reason).

I don't believe in 'every view should come to the site' but that's my own preference and lens I see things through. I don't really care if they vote or not, I care only that their votes are well reasoned and their genuine own thoughts.

Well, I've addressed him on this before, But I'll tell you the same thing.

If voting was opened up, we'd get so many votes per debate, that it would absorb the troll voters and render their votes negligible.

Also, troll voters cancel each other out. For every liberal that makes 5 alt accounts, there's a counter troll making 5 conservative alt accounts.

But this 5 alt accounts would pale in comparison to the potentially high amount of votes we could get if we didn't get moderated.

There are ways to moderate voting indirectly as well.

For instance. We can fight alt accounts with directly fighting votes and we can moderate votes when alt accounts are discovered.

Generally when arguing w/ him that's true, i'll give you that, however that was a good point by him saying that voting should be fair.

Just so we're clear here. He LITERALLY beliefs that everything around him is fake, but pretends it's real because it's practical to do so. Why argue anything in a comment section with somebody who thinks I'm an illusion. I'll do it in a debate where it's my job. But I'm not going to bang my head against the wall that is RM's solipsism.

It's more like RM has no interest in truth, but rather winning, so to argue with him would be foolish on my part.

"we'll have to agree to disagree on that one." lol so in other words RM just shut you up and you couldn't respond

we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I don't support unmoderated voting, I am patching a loophole in the CoC by obeying it for the right reasons in the wrong ways to even out an imbalance caused by toxic abusers of the 'troll votes aren't moderated' clause.

Votes only get moderated when reported, so there should be no stigma on reporting votes. Obviously, we shouldn't do it in non standard debates, because they're for fun.

Furthermore, I'm in favor of unmoderated voting.

SUPPORT UNMODERATED VOTING.

So you still 'know' that do you?

I totally agree it should be, I'm delivering justice that the CoC refuses to be enforced in a way that the CoC allows.

I wasn't tryna "get u" or something, I just knew it was against CoC.

oh ok gotcha

Votes will not be moderated as this is a troll/non standard debate

Good try. I have never had a vote removed ever since the rules went up (only one was one i made prior to them and was removed retroactively).

I reported a couple of vote bombs and counter vote bombs, against CoC.

That one was extremely good. I laughed hard.

it's a meme contest. Click repeatedly to experience the funny.

your final round was really funny

Use your best judgement

Does the winner get all the categories votes? i.e. conduct, grammar, sources

Virtuoso is busy doing stuff for the site.
Ramshutu is in the contest.
You are as well.
Titanium might.
Pinkfreud08 is barely on.
And I take way too much time to vote in a debate and I put too much detail so it would take a lot out of me just to take one debate and the same pay off as another vote someone has put in. Example: https://www.debateart.com/debates/638?open_tab=votes&votes_page=1&vote_number=1

saving for the voting contest.

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/1633

You should join as should your voters list

Wut is dis

Can you guys/gals vote on this debate?

lol so i'm rating this based on which memes are good and so far i have wrick it ralph up by 4 memes...so omar better get rly good memes, 4 to tie, 5 to win, good luck.

I meant memes. My main point was that it's subjective

Your 2nd and last one in Round 5 were funny.

so in your description are you saying the one best meme out of all of them, whoever put it, wins and gets the vote?

The 2nd one in your R4 is basically me.

It decreases the size of the font automatically if it doesn't fit in the box.

thank you, it just fit the picture so well so I had to do it.

The Round 4 last one was really funny.

I might just be easily pleased then, lol

I guess one could be but the rest I don't think are dank enough.

dank memes

Do you want to get banned again?

lol, indeed