Is homosexuality evil?
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Before we begin let's clarify a couple of rules and definitions.
Evil: Harmful to society
Homosexuality: Attaining sexual pleasure from members of the same sex.
- Religious arguments aren't allowed on account of them being arbitrary.
- Prefer not to have this debate centered around semantics however a little won't hurt.
- The burden of proof will be 90 % on Pro however I will provide a few reasons as to why it isn't evil.
"P1. Homosexuals Contract STDs at Rates Much Higher Than Straight People"
" The main argument I hear about homosexuality in general, is people bringing up statistics on HIV or AIDS.Well by logical extension this would make black people harmful to society since they commit the most crime.Or White people evil since they commit the most mass shootings.This inevitably leads to my opponent doing one of Three options, "
P2. Sex is Harmful
Homosexuality and sexual pleasure, in general, is great for one's healthSexual pleasure, in general, has been proven to provide health benefits whether it be through masturbation or sexual intercourse.According to medicalnewstoday, these benefits include,- Improves immunity- Lowers blood pressure- Relieves pain- Improves sleep
P4. Homosexuality is ethically objectable, it degrades the relationship of love to a game.
P3. Homosexuality is Indicative of Psychosexual Immaturity as defined by Freud.
I would like everyone to consider whether dieing of AIDs is worth having slightly lower blood pressure. I do not need to disprove his "benefits" to prove homosexuality is harmful to society.
Are black people harmful to society? I don't know, their culture and murder rate is but it's hardly relevant. Society would probably be improved overall by expelling them, but I would prefer to seek a more amicable solution such as culture and schooling.
Are white people harmful to society? Clearly not, considering mass shootings aren't common. The white demographic is largely the only one keeping this country afloat. All the shooters in the last 20 years also have one other thing in common, they were prescribed some sort of psychoactive medication coupled with a poor home environment.
All of this bears no relevance to whether homos are dieing from AIDs in their ass or not - it's a false-equivalence.
Life expectancy is also higher for straight married couples than normal heterosexuals.
My fourth premise is entirely straight-forward. It can be applied to any form of deviancy which does not necessitate commitment. Perhaps you could counter this by demonstrating how homosexual love is similarly pure, or show statistics which prove they aren't sex demons.
Demon: An evil passion or influence or a person considered extremely wicked, evil, or cruel.
“OBJECTIVE: To assess how HIV infection and AIDS (HIV/AIDS) impacts on mortality rates for gay and bisexual men.CONCLUSION: In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday.”
“So my opponent here obviously is pulling a red herring by overall avoiding the point I'm making. “
Therefore, things 1 and 2 are equal.
Riddle me this, if homosexual longevity is lower because of ‘institutional oppression,’ or ‘bias crimes,’ why do divorced heterosexual males live longer lives and have a lower suicide rate? I mean certainly, with 97% of alimony going to women that must count as institutional oppression in your book. When you also factor in social alienation, financial ruin, and psychological trauma it's astonishing how gays still manage to beat them in this regard.
- My opponent is once again being logically inconsistent or absurd,
- Ok, and without heterosexuals, unwanted pregnancies wouldn’t be an issue.
- Without white people, mass shootings wouldn’t happen nearly as often.
- Without blacks, crime wouldn’t be that rampant.
- Here married lesbians are actually higher than their opposite-sex women in Denmark.
- This statistic absolutely proves my opponent's statistic absolutely false as it relies on ACTUAL numbers not estimated, is fairly recent and proves that homosexuals overall life expectancies are actually increasing.
- My opponents source for this point was published in the year 2000, nearly two decades ago.
- Not to mention the fact that my opponent’s point about this really makes no sense once you began to think about it.
- My opponent has provided no statistic for backing this claim of divorced men experiencing these things, I’ve already provided 5 statistics providing data on the types of hate crimes and how often homosexuals experience them.
“If you’re going to blame ONE gay pilot as an excuse to purport this to an entire population of millions of gays,”
“Ok, and without heterosexuals, unwanted pregnancies wouldn’t be an issue.Without white people, mass shootings wouldn’t happen nearly as often.Without blacks, crime wouldn’t be that rampant.”“You are stating that since homosexuals have high aids rates, this makes them harmful to society.Well by logical extension blacks are also harmful to society since they have high crime rates.STD and sexual problems exist in EVERY sexual experience, by this logic heterosexuals are also evil since they have the most unwanted pregnancies.”
“I am not COMPARING homosexuality with blacks or whites.”
“You were making claims earlier about sex, in general, is dangerous but now are moving the goalpost to homosexuals.”
“Regardless of whether or not homosexuals contract aids the most, the problem isn’t homosexuality, the problem is disease, education, and finding treatments.”
“Getting divorced depending on the circumstance can be hard, however, in 90 percent of divorces, the effects of feeling depressed and the loss of assets is mostly temporary and doesn’t last that long.My opponent has provided no statistic for backing this claim of divorced men experiencing these things, I’ve already provided 5 statistics providing data on the types of hate crimes and how often homosexuals experience them.”
“Firstly the source my opponent used for this statistic is once again outdated, in fact, the study came out in 1987. Around 3 decades ago in fact.Once again my opponent is using yet another outdated statistic. This one is actually far worse than the other two and was published in 1978. Nearly 40 years ago.Because there are no credible recent studies done properly recently, the statistic for this point remains unknown.”
“Secondly, what is wrong with homosexuals performing this sexual act exactly?”