grounds for divorce for bible inerrant people - what about physical abuse?

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jesus said getting remarried after divorce is adultery, except in cases involving sexual immorality. st paul has some other exceptions such as believers being married to unbelievers.

so what if a wife is victim of domestic physical abuse? she can't get divorced and remarried if there's no sexual immorality in the marriage. literalists would say the most she can do is separate from her husband and never remarry.

i think this is a case of maybe the bible isn't inerrant afterall, or being too literal about what it says. maybe jesus meant 'generally' only sexual immorality is the only exception? this is running loose with interpretation. i'd take that stance, but i'm not a bible is inerrant kinda guy.

i know there aren't many fundamentalist christians left on this site, but, what say ya'll? can a victim of domestic abuse with no sexual immorality involved get divorced and remarried?

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@Tradesecret

you're one of the few left on this site that believes the bible has no errors in it. what do you think of this hypothetical?

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Well, if he just punched her once or twice, I dont see why make a big deal out of it.

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Also, this is a typical stereotype of abuser being a man.

Most abusers are women.

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https://thegracecommentary.com/matthew-5/#matthew5v32

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there's a question if jesus was referring to women who were 'divorced' or 'put away'. being put away meant the husband abandoned her without a bill of divorce. here are some alternate ways of reading this passage.

https://escapetoreality.org/2020/05/06/adultery-only-grounds-for-divorce/

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n8nrgim,

YOUR QUOTE TO THE #1 BIBLE FOOL MISS TRADESECRET WITHIN THIS RELIGION FORUM! LOL!!!: "you're one of the few left on this site that believes the bible has no errors in it. what do you think of this hypothetical? "

ROFLOL!!! Listen up you equal Bible fool to Miss Tradesecret, here you RUN AWAY from literal godly biblical posts to you that are NOT IN ERROR, and then you want the #1 Bible ignorant and Stupid fool Miss Tradesecret to address your hypothetical? Are you FU*KING CRAZY?!

There are no errors in the JUDEO-Christian Bible, you blatant Bible fool! What part of the following inspired by Jesus passage don't you understand?

“EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5). GET IT DUMB ASS PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN?

n8nrgim, you are an embarrassment to this Religion Forum and to Christianity, therefore your presence within this prestigious Religion Forum is Satanic for questioning the Bible's validity, which is BLASPHEME! True Christians like myself can gain solace in knowing that you will be going directly to HELL upon your demise, whereas, praise Jesus' revenge upon the Bible Stupids®️ like YOU as shown in the following inspired by Jesus passage where the bold words you are in violation of:

“But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)

WHAT ADDITIONAL MEMBER OF THIS FORUM WANTS TO BE EQUAL TO THE EVER SO DUMBFOUNDED "N8NRGIM" IN ACTUALLY STATING THAT THE BIBLE ISN'T INERRANT AFTER ALL, WILL BE ...?

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For Jewish men to get a divorce, they have to say " DIVORCE " Three times.

Divorce, Divorce, Divorce.

Oh, The ease of it.

The first time i heard this i INSTANTLY laughed it off thinking it was just men being men in religious groups , ( like horrible bastard )

Thennnnnn, i go on watching my crime documentaries.

And like Lots and lots and lots of mainly women get killed in and Around and because of divorce.

See this is because when ya divorce your wife right.

You have to give them half of ya shlt.

End of story.

Buttttttttt.

If ya wife just so happened to like die. , well then they get nothing.

And you can keep all ya stuff.

Soooooooo.

This saying of the word ( divorce × 3 ) to get divorced, starts.

Thats stats , to not look ummmm, completely half stupid.

Next post we can talk about getting ya lovely wife some Life insurance.

Long. short.

Men invented these religions sooooo , tough titties.

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With this re married thing.

Not your wife.

But.

Let say his wife dies of the C word right .

Then some years later.

You get married again. ( all good )

This sounds sound buttttttt.

Well, When 'you' go to heaven, you get to "hang out with your loved ones" and ya good pal jesus ,

so says the god thing right ?

that is going to be awkward hey?

And this is NOT getting divorced.

hanging out with both of your wives?

Whom you both love .

Thats . ( not heavenly jan. )

PS

Same goes for a women whom remarriage. ( but worse )

Oh and.

If God allowed dogs , cats and horses and shit in heaven.

Heaps more people would want to go there hey.

Thus $$$$$$$$$.

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@ n8nrgim,

YOUR QUOTE TO THE #1 BIBLE FOOL MISS TRADESECRET WITHIN THIS RELIGION FORUM! LOL!!!: "you're one of the few left on this site that believes the bible has no errors in it. what do you think of this hypothetical? "

ROFLOL!!! Listen up you equal Bible fool to Miss Tradesecret, here you RUN AWAY from literal godly biblical posts to you that are NOT IN ERROR, and then you want the #1 Bible ignorant and Stupid fool Miss Tradesecret to address your hypothetical? Are you FU*KING CRAZY?!

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Some take longer to learn from their own mistakes Brother D.

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@n8nrgim

@Tradesecret
you're one of the few left on this site that believes the bible has no errors in it. what do you think of this hypothetical?

Well, I have my beer on the sideboard here and sent Mrs Stephen for the scratchings and crisps.

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@n8nrgim

Jesus said getting remarried after divorce is adultery, except in cases involving sexual immorality. St Paul has some other exceptions such as believers being married to unbelievers.

so what if a wife is a victim of domestic physical abuse? She can't get divorced and remarried if there's no sexual immorality in the marriage. literalists would say the most she can do is separate from her husband and never remarry.

I think this is a case of maybe the bible isn't inerrant after all, or being too literal about what it says. maybe Jesus meant 'generally' only sexual immorality is the only exception? this is running loose with interpretation. I'd take that stance, but I'm not a bible is inerrant kinda of guy.

I know there aren't many fundamentalist Christians left on this site, but, what say you'll? can a victim of domestic abuse with no sexual immorality involved get divorced and remarried?

There are lots of views in relation to marriage and divorce within the Christian religion. Some take a very literal view. Some don't. Inerrancy and literalism are not the same thing. There may be some overlap - but definitely the same thing.

In the Presbyterian Church, we hold to what is called Covenant Theology. We use the WCF as our subordinate standard.

In my view the bible is inerrant. And what that means is - that it is its own measuring tool. There are no other divine measuring tools so therefore no one can say whether it is inerrant or not. Hence, why it is referred to as axiomatic. I accept other people use inerrancy differently. That is a matter for them and I have no issue with that. The question of course, then comes down to what is an error. And again, there are different views about that.

Marriage is a covenant institution. It is the commencement of what I would describe as a private family. It has two or three witnesses. Often the church, the state and the family. In the Presbyterian church, we hold that anything that breaks the covenant is a plausible and legitimate reason to divorce. Divorce however is not inevitable and is up to the victim to decide whether they will exercise that right or not. Unfaithfulness is a plausible reason as is domestic violence. As is desertion. As is leaving the faith. There are other ways that a covenant comes to an end, e.g. death.

I don't think Jesus advocated that sexual morality is the ONLY grounds for divorce. I know some think that. Yet the context - is important. And the fact is in that particular passage - Jesus was primarily arguing against pharisee's easy divorce system and saying, there needs to be a genuine reason.

I think most people don't understand the idea of literal interpretation. They mistakenly use it as a genre when it is not. The fundamentalists tend to be literalists. I consider myself, confessional. That means I look at the context, the genre, the type of language used, inter alia with a whole lot of other things.

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@Tradesecret

there needs to be a genuine reason

Yeah, such as wife getting ugly over time.

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@Best.Korea

Nope. I don't think that would be a reason at all.

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@Tradesecret

Of course. I wont fuck ugly women. Better to find a different wife who is hot.

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Women may in fact be , terrible judges of characters.

Rubble.

Rubble. Perish the thought

Women judging the character of men.

Compare to.

Men judging the character of women.

Is so fucking diffrent hey ?

Ive never in my life thought.

Hummmmm , will this chick bash me.

Men look at women and ask themselves.

Would she root my mates behind my back.

Thats the worst thing that could happen right.

But.

Women look at men and ask themselves.

A thousand different things. This neec

Ok So Some women like the bad guys.

Men don't think nothing like that hey.

Women must be like dodging men most of there life.

I wonder the stats of .

Men writing to bad women in jailS.

AS to women to men.

It seems We don't even consider teaching young women about ummmm , judging characters.

Its almost like no one wants to think that women could be bad judges.

I reckon i could pick and spot a guy that won't bash a chick.

Easy.

I can beat any chick in a fight. in every and any shopping mall i visit.

Its not nice to state buttttt, its true.

Imagine having sex with ronda rosey and making her cry.

mmmmmmmmm, yum.

I could.

Of course i WOULD NOT. Buttttttt i could.

But thats a totally diffrent post.

Therefore i perpose that every 40 plus year old male that has never hit a womem recive A BIG SHINY TROPHY.

And a certificate and shit.

I said this to my ex once and she punched me in the face.

I loved it . Dont get me wrong .

But i think it needs to be considered.

Trophies all round.

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If you want pretty poly , you take it.

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My porn category use to be like .

Hot teen sluts . Lesbians and milfs .

To the now.

cockold, cream pie then horny step sister.

Any ideas on why this happened to me. ?

The answer i think issssssss

Because ( one ) of my girlfriends fucked my best mate.

Thus , ever since then, alllll chicks are sluts.

Unfortunately this fact i didn't know until i was like 25.

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Oh , sorry guys

That wasn't me

My stupid cat jumped up on my keyboard again.

Please disregard them last few msg

Fuckin Sluts

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You can tell alot about a person by what porn category they pick i reckon.

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@n8nrgim

Well.

There's procreation, aka shagging and making new people.

And then there is marriage.

And the two are not necessarily mutually dependant.

And then there is religion

And neither of the first two are mutually dependent upon the latter.

But there is also overthink, which often complicates things.

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Up the bum = No babies.

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@Deb-8-a-bull

Up the bum = No babies

Thats gross. Butt is for poop, not for sex.

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God likes when gay people get divorced.

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Butt is gay.

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Gods stance on condoms and other cont devices is a little odd.

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This is really drifting away from the OP.

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Getting to the butt of it.

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@Deb-8-a-bull

I will ask God what does he think of butt sex.

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Let's get back to the Bible. Why did God put the vulva right next to the butthole?

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