MAGA Mike is full of shit

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“The end of the day, it’s, the problem is the human heart. It’s not guns. It’s not the weapons. At the end of the day, we have to protect the right of the citizens to protect themselves, and that’s the Second Amendment.”

This was MAGA Mike’s response to the mass shooting in Maine.

But he’s full of shit. If the human heart was the problem, there would be a mass shooting problem all over the world. The United States is the only country that has a mass shooting problem.

The problem is the human heart. Gun violence is an unchangeable, immutable fact of the human condition. Right? That is why it is localized so strongly to this country and this time period. This is not a problem with a solution. It is the price you pay for being human. Only a moron - a MAGA Moron would believe this narrative.
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Judging by how shitty America is, its going to stay shitty forever.

You have a mentally ill population who has constitutional right to own guns.

Yeah, that wasnt a good idea.

So you either have to change constitution, which is impossible, or you have to fix population's mental health, which is also impossible at this point.
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So you either have to change constitution, which is impossible, or you have to fix population's mental health, which is also impossible at this point.
Correct, so option C...the reset button on America. It was fun while it lasted!

All these things just prove how incompetent a massive central government is at managing mental health safety and managing gun safety.

The elites in D.C. don't want to really fix either of those problems anyway because they want a population more frightened of each other than a government that perpetuates the mess in the first place. Like Hillary and Soros says, "never let a good crisis go to waste!"

A frightened population is much easier to control than an angry population, and the left can't seem to walk down the street without soiling the undies.
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 According to a former employee on The Apprentice, Donald Trump is incontinent thanks to years of Adderall abuse and a fast food diet, and wears Depends.
So I guess we know who else is full of shit.
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But he’s full of shit. If the human heart was the problem, there would be a mass shooting problem all over the world. The United States is the only country that has a mass shooting problem.

There are countries that are gun heavy without the mass shooting problem. So there is something distinct about gun violence in America that is likely a cultural issue to a certain extent. 


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We literally create crazy people by forcing men to grow up in single mother households where they are told how toxic they are daily. When a black oppressed person goes crazy it's the white man's fault. When a white man goes crazy, that is also the white man's fault. Frankly, I am surprised there isn't much more mass killings than we have now. America is a shithole where all cultures are treated equally unless you have white skin. Then you are not allowed to belong to any culture except for white supremacy or white oppressors. Otherwise, you are a member of the special protected class with special legal and social services available only to you. America is doomed because we refuse to actually practice equality, preferring a style of caste system that has also held India back. And then we of course pretend crazy people are not going to snap in this environment.
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A lot of that has to do with the inherent racism of white leftists or the feelings of inferiority by mi orities in America. The self hating minority is easy enough to notice, but the racist leftist is more subtle. Not in Roosevelt's case, he is open about his bigotry but with other leftists.

They inherently believe whites are superior and therefore it is their responsibility to help black men do what they can not do for themselves, due to their inferiority as humans. 

They'll use copes like "systematic racism" but you don't need to be in a conversation with them too long to see their cognitive dissonance. They'll often blame the racism on poor white southerners, as if those are the people in banking institutions denying black people loans or if the redneck hunter is they guy who runs a fortune 500 company and is in charge of hiring mostly white executives.  

The blame is an attempt to avoid the blame for their own internalized racism while maintaining their cognitive dissonance that seeks to cover their subconscious beliefs of the inferiority of blacks and their need to infantalize them to feel like a white savior. 

The reason leftists have so much power now is largely due to women as well. Women have a nurturing instinct and since they are putting off child birth more and more, they substitute that nurturing instinct by getting cats or by pushing policies that seek to nurture humans they see as inferior such as non white refugees
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Also I don't understand disagreeing that the human heart is the problem here. It is like op is trying to say the mass shooting was justified. 

Stati g the heart is the problem is basically a truism that every intelligent liberal will agree with. 

The disagreement between conservatives and liberals is what is a more practical approach to solve gun violence without infringing on people's freedoms. 

The conservative is hypocritical in a sense about gun violence and I may start another thread about it, but essentially they believe in methods to control gun violence that are more indirect. Things such as bringing mental institutions back,  while the left thinks the more practical approach is the direct approach of creating more gun control.  


All I know is that it is extremely stupid to think the Maine shooter had his heart in the right place like op suggests
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All I know is that it is extremely stupid to think the Maine shooter had his heart in the right place like op suggests
We literally had a crazy white man almost kill 83 people on an airliner, and there was not one person calling for more plane safety or plane controls.

They are not taking jump seats out of the planes, they are not making engine cutoff controls proofed against insane people. But we can "have a heart" for a rich white guy that lost his way over a poor white man that did the same with a legal gun.
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There are countries that are gun heavy without the mass shooting problem. 
 Name a gun heavy country that compares to the U.S.

We are a country of 330 million, with 400 million firearms 

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We literally had a crazy white man almost kill 83 people on an airliner, and there was not one person calling for more plane safety or plane controls.
That’s dumb for so many reasons.

Almost killed is very different from actually killed.
This kind of thing is very rare. Mass shootings happen every week. 
There is tons of “plane safety”. It is a highly regulated industry