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Wathing history of England on prime video.  He states easiest way to insult those in the British Isles, who not English, is to lump thee Scots, Celts and Welsh into only the English.
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Britain's are a mongrel race.

Pretty much a global phenomena

Though a lot of people choose to jump on and off the human timeline when and where it suits them.


So some like to think that they are special, because they also think that they do special things in special places.

Pretty much  common global misconceptions.


Me:

I'm primarily Earthling and then British, and inhabit a small demarcated area of the globe known as Wales or Cymru.

Functionally I'm just about the same as any other Earthling of the species Homo Sapiens.

And also physically similar in a lot of ways to not just other Mammalia but also all other organic living structures.


One Earth

One common ancestor.

Probably.
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Britain rules the waves, waves the rules.
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Britain's are a mongrel race.
Yeah, that is also what this teacher makes clear in this History of England vid.

Instead of England or British Isles he points out that in his lecture he will more often reference Land of the Celts or something like that. The Celt pagans were there for thousand of years prior to England.

I saw another program about Stonehenge and how the Pagans cremated there dead and buried them in large pit that went around Stonehenge.  Then some years --500 yrs later--- these individual graves of a person with glittery metal buried with them.  This was new introduction of peoples from European continent, tho it is not clear exactly who and exactly where these people were originally from.

The other thing I learned from this other program about Stonehenge, was that there were these other festival gathering places just short distance away, with pits of hog bones --and maybe other animals-- but what they discovered from the hog bone genetics, was that these hogs varied greatly and meant they were brought from all over the British isles to for these festivals near Stonehenge.



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Celtism is something of a myth.

The people in question are thought to have been of Central European origin. As were their Pigs.

Though ancient Central Europeans would share a common ancestry with every other homo-sapiens that migrated to the  four corners of the globe.

Not that a globe is big on corners.


And for sure, old British pagans did ritualistic stuff that they imagined would be of some metaphysical significance.

And for sure also, archaeologists dig  up stuff and speculate about what ancient pagans might have speculated about.


And people went to a lot of trouble to lug 25 ton stones from Pembrokeshire to Wiltshire.

Why?

We can only speculate.

And they brought their diner with them.
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Though ancient Central Europeans would share a common ancestry with every other homo-sapiens that migrated to the  four corners of the globe.
Yeah of course Celts Welsh etc came from elsewhere  { most likely is of course is European descent }. I imagine there is plenty of genetic data on that by now.

And for sure, old British pagans did ritualistic stuff that they imagined would be of some metaphysical significance.
Cremating their dead around in pits around Stonehenge,--- as I think some other cultures also have also cremated their dead--  may actually stem from intuitive concern of some contagions { bad spirits } from dead flesh,---even tho they of course had no way of knowing of bacteria contagions viruses and flys carry etc--- yet by burning they may have felt was least chance of being affected in anyway be the dead spirits.

Why? We can only speculate. And they brought their diner with them.
Hogs and pigs certainly were a mainstay of many cultures of olden day.

Take note this below is about burials at stonehenge not cremations, that, may have been early, if the info I saw on documentary some years back was correct.

..." Most know Stonehenge for its circle of towering, seemingly immovable monoliths, but perhaps lesser known is that during the site’s early days, it mainly functioned as a cemetery. Thousands of years after the first interments at Stonehenge, the dead are finally revealing their secrets—and, according to a new study published in Scientific Reports, the biggest revelation is that many of those buried at the site originally came from some 140 miles away in western Wales.

...However, the remains, which date to about 3000 through 2500 B.C.E, appear to coincide with the estimated time period of the monument’s early construction.
“The earliest dates are tantalizingly close to the date we believe the bluestones arrived, and though we cannot prove they are the bones of the people who brought them, there must at least be a relationship,” co-author John Pouncett tells Kennedy.


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......" The United Kingdom (UK) is a country that consists of England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

The name Great Britain refers to the island on which most of the non-sovereign countries of England, Scotland, and Wales are situated. "....

See the mop LINK
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What tribe do you belong to? What is your first language, ebuc?

I heard a lot that people in the Great Britain don't gel alone, even among the "english" people. So much differences there it seems.

Who do you dislike the most, ebuc? The english? Lol. 
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I didn't hear much about the Welsh, but you seem to be different from the irish and scotish that really dislike the english. 

Do you dislike the english, Victor? Do you the Welsh have self-esteem? Lol. 
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What tribe do you belong to? What is your first language, ebuc?
Human tribe.  First language is logical common sense critical thinking.

Who do you dislike the most, ebuc? The english? Lol. 
My short comings in addressing my personal issues { emotional demons } that affect my moral, and intellectual integrity practices.


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Me?

I'm primarily an Earthling of the species Homo-sapiens,  and secondly  British as dictated by international recognition of nationhood. 

I live in a region of the British Isles that is referred to as Wales.

English is a European post-Roman derived concept,  inspired by the aspirations of  previously existent people/settlers/invaders, and maintained by those who choose to dwell on such thoughts.

Fact is, current British residents are a mish-mash of all sorts, from all over the Globe....Rather like most Earthlings.

 
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Alright, but I was asking basically If all the "british" people get along each other. I once met an english old man in the DDO forum who used to speak of the non-londoners in a very derogatory way, deeming them as little less than primitives. This old guy was very funny, by the way, showing good manners and politeness. 
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Might have been me.

I've forgotten my DDO name  though.

Possibly SonofCharl.

But I don't think that I've ever  had a downer on Londoners.

Not that I ever visit London

I'm not keen on big cities.



The British are like all people, some are friendly and a few are arseholes.

I will be friendly with anyone that is prepared to reciprocate.

And I will just ignore the arseholes.


But on the whole we get along fine here in Britain.


What about you and your American cousins? (I'm assuming that you live in the USA)



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What about you and your American cousins? (I'm assuming that you live in the USA)
No, I don't live in the US, but I met some americans, most of them republicans, and they are nationalists as hell (somewhat like Greyparrot), but they're cool.  

I heard of bad experiences with black americans from some folks of mine, though. I don't know, I guess black people are an issue in the US.
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Ok.

So where do you reside?

And I'm sure that there are dodgy Americans, but I never met any when I was there.

And most people only consider politics when pushed to consider politics....There are far more pressing things to get on with.
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So where do you reside?
I live in Peru for now. I expect to move to Brasil or Chile, or maybe to Argentina if it gets better with the libertarian Milei, but I'm having fun where I am now.
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Ok.

So would you say that there is a generally respected commonality in being South American.

Over here, South and Central America gets very little positive media exposure, most Brits see it is a land of dictators, drug gangs and violence.

Such is the medias necessity to dwell on negativity I suppose.

Such has become the publics morbid obsession with dictators, drugs gangs and violence.

Of course we also see the occasional natural history stuff, though this is nearly always dogged with doom and gloom human inspired devastation scenarios.


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Latinamerica is quite diverse, I guess it's same in Europe where there are shitty countries too (in Eastern Europe). I mean, Europe is wealthier than Latinamerica, but it also has main problems concerning violence basically because of the illegal migration. Netherlands is having troubles with criminality, I heard of a journalist murdered by a north african drug cartel. France is not anymore the country it used to be. Swedish is on the same path. 

Even so, Europe is still a good place to live, no doubt, at least until the Third World War outbreaks. The same happens in Latinamerica. If you were to live here you just have to do your research. For instance, I plan on retiring in Costa Rica which is a good place to spend my old age. Even in Mexico that is motherfucking violent, there are lot of foreigners that live there because the cost of living is irresistibly low and some cities not taken by drug dealers provide a decent quality of life.

As to the dictatorships, what can I say, Victor? Europe also has dictators: Putin, Lukashenko, and others I don't remember now. If you notice, current European dictatorships were once part of the communist bloc. Latinamerican dictatorships became a problem since the Cold War and since Cuba was taken by communism. Hugo Chavez was trained in Cuba, just to give you an idea. All the current latinamerican socialists without exception praise Cuba as a political and economic model, that's crazy shit. The cancer of Latinamerica is socialism, and the US is being taken by this ideology, I'm afraid. Europe was once nearly taken by communism but fortunately the US and later the social democracy saved Europe.

So, you were just very lucky, Victor. Latinamerica was shaped by European migration and culture so I don't see why we couldn't get the same development. Remember, once the third world war outbreaks, the best place you could choose to flee is Latinamerica.
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In terms of World stability, I think that China is the biggest player these days.

The USA and NATO a close second.

Russia along with Bela Russia have few real allies, so are caught between a rock and a hard place.

I can't really see WW3 happening soon.

Tough call for Ukraine though, so we must keep supporting them and try and keep China as neutral as possible.


And it's always been the way that the world is populated by a majority of decent people, and a minority of arseholes.


Stay decent and choose somewhere safe to keep your head down and out of trouble.


Nice to communicate with you, and all the best for the New Year.




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Nice to communicate with you, and all the best for the New Year.
Likewise, Victor.