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a. The right to an abortion
b. The right to own an AR 15
c. The right to be undocumented
d. The right to be unvaccinated

There are 16 possible combinations of these rights (assuming Boolean approach).

Definitions: a: Being in favor of legalized abortion.  ~a: Not being in favor of legalized abortion.  \cap: Intersection.

Why are pretty much all the following combinations represented in Washington DC the following:

1. a \cap ~b \cap c \cap ~d (democrats)
2. ~a \cap b \cap ~c \cap d (republicans)

What consistent ethos unites a \cap ~b \cap c \cap ~d together and ~a \cap b \cap ~c \cap d together?

It's all because the parties decided to embrace these arbitrary combinations of ideas.  But then the parties control what the vast majority of people in this country think on these 4 issues.

I do not believe there is a single thing that unites a \cap ~b \cap c \cap ~d together and ~a \cap b \cap ~c \cap d together other than what the parties decided to initially back.

And if balance between freedom and safety is the goal, there are 4 other combinations that support 2 other rights and reject 2 others (a \cap b \cap ~c \cap ~d) (and it's opposite), as well as (~a \cap b \cap c \cap ~d) (and it's opposite).  These 4 combinations  (plus the democrat and republican combination) is 6 (4 nCr 2).  This is not by accident.  It's basic mathematics.

But these other ideas are barely represented because people have parties to stick to in DC.  In fact, out of 16 Boolean combinations of these beliefs, only 2 are even represented (because the 2 party system has this country by the balls (and the far left and the far right that people seem to want will be in favor of the same combinations as the democrats and republicans separately; they are just more passionate about it).

In our tribalistic political environment, pretty much the only difference between center (left/right) and far (left/right) is passion.  Bernie Sanders has the same goals as Biden (he's just faster paced with them than Biden is) and Matt Gaetz has the same values as Kevin McCarthy; Matt Gaetz is just faster paced with them).
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a. The right to an abortion
Abortion should be available.


b. The right to own an AR 15
No, you do not get to own that.


c. The right to be undocumented
Sure.


d. The right to be unvaccinated
Well, there is no such right. You know how militaries get to kill civilians under excuse of protecting more civilians? You get vaccinated under excuse of protecting others.
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@Best.Korea
What makes your supported rights a and c and not also b and d?  Is it merely what the democrat party has selected that you would believe?  If so, then you are being a partisan hack (whoever liked your comment is also a partisan hack).

What separates rights a and c from b and d other than party affiliation?

You know how militaries get to kill civilians under excuse of protecting more civilians?
I'm anti-war because war is legalized mass murder and it costs the taxpayers a lot of money.

You get forced to be vaccinated under excuse of protecting others.
You can make that argument with abortion.  "You are forced to be pregnant for 9 months under the excuse of protecting others (the unborn)".  You can make the same excuse with the undocumented, "You are forced to go through the legalization process under the excuse of protecting others (American Citizens from the potential terrorist however small the odds of a random undocumented immigrant being a terrorist are)".
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Your whole argument doesn't make sense except for the following quote:

With Forged documentation.  
You can obtain all them rights. 
If this is your belief, what specific protocol would you require to obtain rights a through d?
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MAGA morons cannot keep there virtual nose out of pregnant womans bodily autonomy aka sick-n-head belief system of commuting virtual rape


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@TheUnderdog
You can make that argument with abortion.
You can, but you dont have to. Thats the beauty of arbitrary morality. It doesnt require any consistency.

Is it merely what the democrat party has selected that you would believe?
Well, maybe. I am not sure who selected it. Its just how it is.
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You can, but you dont have to. Thats the beauty of arbitrary morality. It doesnt require any consistency.
The only thing consistent with your morality is all of those beliefs are backed by the democrat party.  If the democrat party said, "transwomen are women, implement the vacciene mandate, abolish ICE, protect the unborn, and expand the 2nd amendment" (and the GOP disagreed with all of that), then your views would get molded to fit with the democrat party.

Well, maybe. I am not sure who selected it.
It was the democrat party that selected your morality.  

Here are a bunch of policies:

  1. Reparations
  2. Citizens united
  3. First past the post
  4. Higher taxes on the wealthy
  5. Additional gun control
  6. Climate change alarmism
  7. Corporate welfare
  8. 2020 election
  9. AI
  10. Income tax
  11. Relocating peaceful (undocumented/illegal) immigrants(to either their home country or to blue counties).
  12. Big tech censorship
  13. Medicare for all
  14. Affirmitive action
  15. Believe women, good or bad?
  16. Death penalty for felonies
  17. Abortion for consensual sex
  18. Felons voting(assuming you back incarceration)
  19. Homeschooling
  20. Drag queens for children
  21. Teacher salary raises
  22. Increase Military spending
  23. Circumsising infants
  24. Energy
  25. Electoral college
  26. Ye West
  27. Ukraine-Russia Conflict
  28. Gay marraige
  29. Gas Sales Tax
  30. Churches
  31. Getting fired for being LGBT
  32. Getting fired for being conservative/unvaccinated
  33. Refusing service to LGBT customers
  34. Hard vacciene mandate (for customers)
  35. Censorship for far left (flag burners)
  36. Censorship for far right (white supremests)
  37. Porn
  38. GMOs
  39. Israel-Palestine conflict
  40. PR statehood
  41. DC statehood
  42. CRT
  43. Crypto Currency
  44. Birth control
  45. Minimum wage
  46. Individual welfare
  47. Oil nationalization
  48. Veganism
  49. Hitler
  50. Tariffs
  51. Gender transitioning for minors
  52. Sex
  53. Police body cameras
  54. Yemen-Saudi Arabia conflict
  55. Furries
  56. Subsidize renewable energy
  57. Planned parenthood funding
  58. Should employers be required to provide free birth control?
  59. Enviornmental regulations
  60. LGBT couples adopting
  61. Tough on weed
  62. Tough on vape
  63. Tough on Nicotine
  64. Voting
  65. Defund the police
  66. Defunding the FBI
  67. Adultury
  68. Qualified immunity support
  69. Constitutional carry
  70. Should prostitution be legal(unmarried people)?
  71. Metric system
  72. Hyde Amedment
  73. Wage gap
  74. Abortion for rape victims.
  75. Cultural Approporitation
  76. Transgenderism
  77. Trans people competing in women's sports
  78. Creationism
  79. Religion

It's a lot of opinions, you don't have to write a paragraph on them.  Just state your opinions on them; no individual opinion would get challenged; this is just to test something out.

But I believe pretty much everyone in this country agrees with one party on at least 60 of these issues (because of partisan tribalism).

It's because of partisan tribalism that many people are against even modifying age of consent laws (we both agree age of consent laws should be modified).  But since neither the left nor right wing media has endorsed this idea, pretty much nobody supports modifying the age of consent laws (they have a party to stick too). 

If the GOP media is the first to advocate for modifying the age of consent laws, pretty much every right winger in your life will agree with them and the left will disagree with it.  If the democrat media is the first to advocate for modifying the age of consent laws, pretty much every left winger in your life will agree with them and the right will disagree with it.  

But as of right now, neither media group has endorsed the idea, so virtually nobody is open to even modifying laws regarding who can legally consent because people want to stick to their parties (I would assume so do you).
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Alright, you are pro choice.  If you vote blue because of abortion; fine; I have no issue with this.

What if there were 2 politicians (Politician A and Politician B).  Politician A is pro choice, pro deportation, anti vaccine mandate, anti-AR 15 ban, and thinks transgenders are mentally ill and delusional.  Politician B is pro life, anti deportation, pro vaccine mandate, pro AR 15 ban, and think transwomen are real women.

Who would you vote for?  If all you care about is abortion from the pro choice side, then you would side with Politician A, even though they are right wing on every issue besides abortion.

None of the left wing stances on these issues I mentioned are connected in any way except by party affiliation.
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@TheUnderdog
  1. Reparations
Sure.
  1. Citizens united
Sure.
  1. First past the post
Not sure about it.

  1. Higher taxes on the wealthy
Sure.
  1. Additional gun control
Total gun ban.

  1. Climate change alarmism
Yes.
  1. Corporate welfare
Sure.

  1. 2020 election
It happened?

  1. AI
I like AI.

  1. Income tax
Sure.

  1. Relocating peaceful (undocumented/illegal) immigrants(to either their home country or to blue counties).
No.
  1. Big tech censorship
No.
  1. Medicare for all
No. Why would someone who can pay for it get it for free?

  1. Affirmitive action
Yes.

  1. Believe women, good or bad?
I dont understand.

  1. Death penalty for felonies
No.

  1. Abortion for consensual sex
Sure.
  1. Felons voting(assuming you back incarceration)
Well, not sure about that one.

  1. Homeschooling
Yes, homeschooling is good.

  1. Drag queens for children
Only if children want to see drag queens.

  1. Teacher salary raises
No. I like private schools where teachers are payed per efficiency.

  1. Increase Military spending
Yes. I believe military is the top priority. Its the wall that stands between us and Putin.

  1. Circumsising infants
Thats just wrong.

  1. Energy
Well, I do like nuclear energy, but so far coal is best in the economical sense.
  1. Electoral college
I dont really like it.
  1. Ye West
I dont know much about him.

  1. Ukraine-Russia Conflict
I support Ukraine.
  1. Gay marraige
Gay marriage is fine.
  1. Gas Sales Tax
No.
  1. Churches
Sure, but I would prefer some non-Christian churches. I think other Gods should be worshipped too.
  1. Getting fired for being LGBT
Well, unless someone is having sex at work, I dont see whats the big deal. People can fire anyone for anything, its just kinda strange.

  1. Getting fired for being conservative/unvaccinated
As I said, people can fire anyone for anything.

  1. Refusing service to LGBT customers
Well, you can technically refuse service to anyone.

  1. Hard vacciene mandate (for customers)
Only if there is some actual danger.

  1. Censorship for far left (flag burners)
No.
  1. Censorship for far right (white supremests)
No.
  1. Porn
Sure.
  1. GMOs
Eh, some are safer than others.

  1. Israel-Palestine conflict
Israel is abuser.

  1. PR statehood
I really dont have opinion on that one.

  1. DC statehood
No opinion.

  1. CRT
I dont know what that is.

  1. Crypto Currency
Sure, but keep in mind that dollar is most important.

  1. Birth control
Sure.

  1. Minimum wage
No.

  1. Individual welfare
I believe state has duty to help the ones who cant survive or succeed without such help.
  1. Oil nationalization
No.
  1. Veganism
No.
  1. Hitler
Bad.
  1. Tariffs
No.
  1. Gender transitioning for minors
Yes.

  1. Sex
What about sex?

  1. Police body cameras
Yes.

  1. Yemen-Saudi Arabia conflict
I think Yemen is the better guy there, but Saudi Arabia is more important for US.

  1. Furries
Sure.

  1. Subsidize renewable energy
Sure.

  1. Planned parenthood funding
It should be private company. It shouldnt be funded by government.

  1. Should employers be required to provide free birth control?
No. Condoms arent really that expensive, and people who have abortions should pay for them in money.

  1. Enviornmental regulations
Well, I dont like breathing in smoke. Do you?

  1. LGBT couples adopting
Sure.
  1. Tough on weed
Yes.
  1. Tough on vape
Yes.

  1. Tough on Nicotine
Yes.
  1. Voting
People should vote?

  1. Defund the police
No.
  1. Defunding the FBI
No.
  1. Adultury
Sure, I dont judge.

  1. Qualified immunity support
I am not sure I know what that is.

  1. Constitutional carry
Guns bad.

  1. Should prostitution be legal(unmarried people)?
Yes.
  1. Metric system
Yes.
  1. Hyde Amedment
Eh. Not good enough.
  1. Wage gap
Ban luxury items, then I dont care what the wage is.
  1. Abortion for rape victims.
Assuming they want it.
  1. Cultural Approporitation
Now thats nonsense.
  1. Transgenderism
I think society doesnt get to dictate private life.

  1. Trans people competing in women's sports
Sure, although not if they are gonna win easily.
  1. Creationism
Sure.
  1. Religion
Sure.

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Rights to own a plasric Replica  AR-15.  ? 

You have to think about that for a second hey. ?

If you start weighing up ,the what could be wrongs,  with the what rights. 
For a second .  
Ya gone . 

The answer to ,  Should we be allowed to carry fake AR's around or not 

To wich one would assume the answer is.  NO  .   (  Safety aspect  ) 

Becauseeeeeeeeee.  
▪°•▪°•▪°•▪°•        NOW GET THIS.   ▪°•▪°•▪°•▪°•

Its Because Of the People with real guns. 
Clarify
A person with a fake gun could be killed by a person with a real gun. 
Because the person with the real gun MISTAKENLY  MISTOOK. 
A fake gun with a real gun. 
Haaaaaa.  
So
' Fake fucking guns are extremely dangerous '  .
Thusssss. 
IF FAKE GUNS ARE (  EXTREMELY DANGEROUS .) 

WHERE WOULD THAT PUT REAL GUNS ? . 


( SUPER EXTRA INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS.)   

Do not say that fake guns and  real guns are two diffrent things.
Just don't right. 
Stop it 

They are not " two diff things " . Because ummm  
Actually,  they might be. 
Hang on 

Well
To the naked eye they are not.  


Two wrongs don't make a right.
But. 
Three rights makes a left.
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You have at least 40 Left wing beliefs, 25 right wing beliefs, 1 preagmatic response, and 13 Other.

Among your other beliefs 9 of them require more information or you misunderstood the issue.

  1. 8. 2020 electionIt happened? 
  2. 15. Believe women, good or bad?I dont understand. 
  3. 26. Ye WestI dont know much about him. 
  4. 42. CRT I dont know what that is.
  5. 49. HitlerBad. 
  6. 52. SexWhat about sex? 
  7. 64. Voting People should vote?
  8. 68. Qualified immunity support I am not sure I know what that is.
  9. 73. Wage gapBan luxury items, then I dont care what the wage is. 


1. The question here is do you believe Biden or Trump won in 2020?
2. If someone is accused of rape, do you support a conviction only if there is evidence or do you believe the victim unconditionally on the grounds that evidence is hard to get for rape trials?
3. Ye West (aka Kanye West) is running for president and he endorses Hitler.  You have said that you don't like Hitler, but that Nazis should get free speech, so I will treat this as the pragmatic option.  For me, pragmatic = half left + half right.  So you are at 41 Left wing beliefs, 26 right wing beliefs.
4. Do you think CRT is a serious problem in schools?
5. Saying "Hitler is bad" is THE normie position.  This question was asked because out of the current left vs right, nobody wants Hitler on their team.  The left argues Hitler would have been a right winger if he was running today; the right argues he would have been a left winger.  Do you believe Hitler was a left or right winger?
6. Do you think it's morally good to have consensual sex with people?
7. Do you think the voting age should be increased to get more mature votes, decreased to get more votes and a more inclusive democracy, or kept the same?
8. Supporting Qualified immunity is the opposite position to what BLM advocates; they want Qualified immunity repealed so if a police officer kills someone on the line of duty, they have to go to court over it.  Qualified immunity doesn't allow this.  Do you believe Qualified immunity should be repealed?
9. You misunderstood the question.  Femenists argue that business owners are (subconsciously) sexist because they tend to pay women less than they tend to pay men.  The opposing view is that the buisinesses have no incentive to be sexist and men tend to be more productive in order to earn a pay increase. Which view do you agree with?

But yeah; I was expecting the vast majority of your views to be left wing.

I was surprised, but I need to repeat this expieriment multiple times.
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If you think certain rights really shouldn't be.
Give em a big wave. 
When you wave them , they just pop up on a side bar.. 
You can un wave any waved right.
In one click. 
' clicks fingers '

I keep all my rights in this a waved state. 

If the cops go. 
So. Was your right  #284 .  in a waved state. Orr  currently active.  
To wich you say . 
( UN WAVE RIGHT ) thats your right to remain silent. 

When i .
Wave and Unwave my righty right rights. .
I dramatize it. 
I say it real fast and loud.  Its like I'm performinga magic.
Try it.,
say it like your mentally retarded
Andddddd 
A WAVE RIGHT. 
WAVE RIGHT. 
WAVE IT. 
AND. 
UNWAVE RIGHT. 
UNWAVE .RIGHT. 
WAVE. 
WAVE RIGHT. 

OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO DO THE HAND MOTIONS.  
WAVE RIGHT. 
UN WAVE
You just wobble your hand up and down like a spaz . 
And say it like a spaz, 
Wave right . 

What im trying to say is. 
Im a wave righter .
I ummm , well ,  i wave rights .

Im gonna now take all my little rights for a quick jog down the park.  
Well Thats how i usually  do it.  I'm supprised my rights still work. 
I dont do this much. 

I bet you haven't exercised your rights once this year have you? 
Thats so fucking crule man.   

For christ sake. 
Go and exercise ya rights.  
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Imagine someone looking into your eyes and saying. 

You DO NOT have a right to remain silent.  
HAR.
HEHE.

the only way that could possibly half work is.
Torture. 
Luckily no governments have agencies of anysorts that could and would use  this "Torture" method. 

You'd get in trouble for tourtuing people these days. 

What ya need to do is remember this

NO ONE .   gets tourtued anymore.  
Torture is obsolete.  

"They " don't. 
Nope. 

No but. 
saying that You don't have a right to remain silent , is almost exactly like saying.     
You are not allowed  to cut your voice box out. 
 And we know full bloody well.  that we are allllll allowed  to cut out the required parts in ya throat that allows speach. 
Thats a right. 

You now start thinking about stupid shit like. 
Attempted murder charges on thoes whom attempt suicide but are not successful.  


A AI torture and verbal communication extraction bot. 
Thats the 5700 cseries mkII .
Correct.
That the one With the extra ram. 




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Alright, you are pro choice. 
Youve made the correct choice above. 1 credit

Politician A is pro choice,
Then the get 1 credit of  moral and intellectual integrity

pro deportation,
I would be fine with some people being deported. Please share your list. 
anti vaccine mandate,
1 credit taken away is 0 for moral intellectual integrity.  There evidence for only for some vaccines that were dangerous for one reason or another, since they first were invented.  Most are good for most individuals and humanity.

anti-AR 15 ban,
Return of 1 credit

and thinks transgenders are mentally ill and delusional.

Lost of credit = 0........People who do not base their belief systems on truth of facts and instead generalizes all of  single sterotype as one way or the other only are lacking in moral and intellectual integrity.
 Politician B is pro life, anti deportation, pro vaccine mandate, pro AR 15 ban, and think transwomen are real women.
Please share your list of who should be deported and we can look for common ground. Again, your have some making generalizations about aka a sterotype,  of people all this or that way.   Biodiversity is resultant of sex.  Diversity inherent means more complex creatures on Earth.  

Who would you vote for?  If all you care about is abortion from the pro choice side, then you would side with Politician A, even though they are right wing on every issue besides abortion.
Not any MAGA morons.  And of course, they exist at varying degrees of MAGA and moronic. 

Vote Democrat and avoid  Trumpet ---or other MAGA moron--- as dictator.
This is a no-brainer for those on side of moral and intellectual integrity.



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Ive just 5 more RIGHTS to collect to make the full set.

Im currently gunning for .
Human Right :  118.  RIGHTS TO PARTY.
He whom the holder and victor of the human right #118 card. 

Hasssssss  Above all , the ABSOLUTE  RIGHT TO ( Partake in and any party of his so wishings any time any where.* ) 
This card is to be forfeited upon losing a fight only if said fight is for ,  said human right.  #118 : party rights. 

What a load of shit right. 
A right to fuckin party .its just stupid 
See I myself don't think one needs a "right" to "party" so to speak. 

I've attended party's before and not once never have i been asked to produce my( party rights ) card. 
I was never sent one to start with.  
Its absolute nonsense.  

Buttttttt  unfortunately guys im gonna need a full set of rights ? 
It is most Unfortunate that it has to come to this .
But i don't make the rules.
YOU GOTTA FIGHT FOR THIS ONE. 
Ok here goes. Deep breath. 


I'll fight any one of yas,  to the fucken death , for that card. 
Any time. Not anywhere.  
SO BRING IT. 
Now, lets do it. 
Lets fucking dance kunt. 
Im right fucken here.
' punches oneself in the head ' 

* not true at time of typing.
Infomation on party rights may be misleading.   

PS.
Hey How much do ya reckon i could get for a FULL SET OF HUMAN RIGHTS . ?
A few thousand hey. 
At least . At the least.  
Ok bye guys . 

PM.. me if your interested.  $$$$



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I would be fine with some people being deported. Please share your list. 
Politician A supports deporting every single undocumented/illegal immigrant, even if their only crime is coming to the country without papers.  If they make American Citizen kids, they get separated from their kids.

Please share your list of who should be deported and we can look for common ground. 
Person B is anti deportation under to exceptions and he thinks the penalty for an immigrant raping/murdering should be the same as a native born citizen doing the same crime.

Not any MAGA morons.  And of course, they exist at varying degrees of MAGA and moronic. 
Even Kid Rock?  He's pro choice.

Vote Democrat and avoid  Trumpet ---or other MAGA moron--- as dictator.
This is a no-brainer for those on side of moral and intellectual integrity.
Even if that Democrat is John Bel Edwards (governor of Louisiana; pro life)?
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Picture puting a full set of these human rights on a plane and sending them on a round the world trip.
Upon arrival, and from place to place.
The correct cards are taken out and or added. 

So youll be viewing the fluctuations of the pile of cards that go in conjunction with the towns  city ,country ,state, or other. 

What song would you put to it. ?

Eg
And i think to myself , what a wonderful word.  
Orrrrr
Hey there Delilah,  
Maybe. 
Heal the world , make it a better place.  No , no i hate that. 
What about.
Your right , quite right , your bloody well right . You got a right to say. 

Anyway , i leave that up to you. 

A male pile and a female pile  that fluctuation diffrences would be interesting 

Although not really enough human rights to see large enough  fluctuations 

It will be funny watching the certain country's  taking out certain cards.
Even the taking out the right to vote card would be funny. 
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Ok last post. 
Sorry for the D-railment

I want to know. 
No
I need to know.
The peace of music you play when a country / state /place ,,.

Removes that ( right to vote ) card # 73 .   from the deck of human rights and puts it in the.     Not needed pile over to the side.

(  whats the music playing ?  ) 
Keep in mind . The scraping of the card plays in slow motion.  




Correct.
It so is right?
Darth vader always.
Nice.

What about a full set of human rights
                                             ○○○○  WORLD OF RIGHTS ○○○○ 
Thats the Full world rights edition. 
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Hey do ya think the people in  Botswana have these " rights " things. 
Oh crap, did i just typen that outloud . ?
I did , i did 

Shit im Sorry 
I just dare not google that, i merely wonder it. 
 If i asked me it would go.  Hey deb.
It goes Deb . Botswana isnt a place like you are thinking it is . Yes it sounds funny . But if you thinking its just dirt , you are  mistaken pal. 
I says .
Alright.  Fuck man , im sorry. 
I was just thinking is all.

The answers is yes
People in Botswana have human rights. 

So, there like everywhere. 

Ok, ok well , what about a size of land with no current  human on its surface 
Is there human rights there. ,? 
like if i went there myself ? 

What, what , what. 
One person with human rights you say ? 
Get the fuck out of town . 
HOW DOES THAT WORKN, 

i mean they are ( HUMAN RIGHTS ) Not ( HUMANS RIGHTS ) 

OHHHHH
ARH HAR.

AND THERE LIE THE KEY HEY ? 
 If only we could envent something thats called . 
What was it again 
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆   HUMANS RIGHTS. ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆  
So humans is like the plural of human .
Human being one 
Humans being us as a all. 
Humans rights would mean . If you have a right here to do like ( what ever )?  You as does jonny from Botswana , in Botswana  can also do it. 

And ya just cant invent that shit now kenya  can you. 
I says NO.
No you cant. 
Thus there aint no such thing as  HUMANS AS A WHOLE " RIGHTS" 
HUMANS RIGHT right?

SO i go like . No
Yep, fair enough.  
It aint the goosd and the gander

 


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Anddddddd.   
Someone should now.
( Remind me of my right to remain silent.) 
If you did Id hate it so much. 
Dont hey. 
Don't do it . I'll shut up. 
Hey whats that over there. ?

'  sprints away  ' 




FUCKING WANKERS .
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Politician A supports deporting every single undocumented/illegal immigrant, even if their only crime is coming to the country without papers.  If they make American Citizen kids, they get separated from their kids.
Underdog,  you dont state if that is your  list.

My begins with  insurrectionists who propagate violence.  Immigrant issue has long not been figured out with any if no, logical common sense critical thinking by congress.  It always gets put on back burner.

USA needs immigrants.  They've always come to USA and will continue to come to escape political-environmental conditions in their areas.
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Virutal rape of pregnant woman lacks moral and intellectual integrity. Im very clear on this

Even if that Democrat is John Bel Edwards (governor of Louisiana; pro life)?
Dictators propagating violence  is not the best way forward for the least amount of suffering on Earth, to achieve goals of believed longer term existence of humanity on Earth. All-for-one and one-for-all is the spiritual way forward, that, along with a globally united humanity, using logical common sense critical thinking to solve our global issues is ideal way forward.

A no brainer, once again. 





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1. The question here is do you believe Biden or Trump won in 2020?
Biden won.

2. If someone is accused of rape, do you support a conviction only if there is evidence or do you believe the victim unconditionally on the grounds that evidence is hard to get for rape trials?
Only if there is evidence. Women are famous for lying and making false reports.

4. Do you think CRT is a serious problem in schools?
No. I think CRT is mostly good.

5.  Do you believe Hitler was a left or right winger?
Hitler was a bit of both. In economy, he was mostly left wing.

6. Do you think it's morally good to have consensual sex with people?
Sure.

7. Do you think the voting age should be increased to get more mature votes, decreased to get more votes and a more inclusive democracy, or kept the same?
Decreased.

8. Supporting Qualified immunity is the opposite position to what BLM advocates; they want Qualified immunity repealed so if a police officer kills someone on the line of duty, they have to go to court over it.  Qualified immunity doesn't allow this.  Do you believe Qualified immunity should be repealed?
Qualified immunity should be repealed.

9. You misunderstood the question.  Femenists argue that business owners are (subconsciously) sexist because they tend to pay women less than they tend to pay men.  The opposing view is that the buisinesses have no incentive to be sexist and men tend to be more productive in order to earn a pay increase. Which view do you agree with?
I would say that most buisnesses want men, so they pay them more. I wouldnt say its sexist. Its just how market works.
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You have at least 40 Left wing beliefs, 25 right wing beliefs, 1 preagmatic response, and 13 Other.
Well, I am mostly left wing.

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Yes, the voting age should be 16. With the internet a 16 year old knows more now that a 40 year old did 60 years ago.
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You have at least 40 Left wing beliefs, 25 right wing beliefs, 1 preagmatic response, and 13 Other.

Among your other beliefs 9 of them require more information or you misunderstood the issue.


So you are at 41 Left wing beliefs, 26 right wing beliefs.
This is for my reference.

41+5=46, 26+3=29, 

46 left beliefs, 29 right wing beliefs.

That's surprising.  I thought you would have hat at least 68 left beliefs.

I was wrong.

I guess based on this sample size, you do come to your own conclusions even if I don't agree 100%.

I need to repeat this experiment on a lot of people though to see if the results are an anomaly or reflective of society trends.

Tagged people can see that this is a concession on my end.
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Why not 13?  Why not 10?  I see all these very political 10 year olds at the place I work.

But I think trying to change the voting age in one direction or the other is with the goal of giving one's party an advantage, so I would rather keep it at 18 (or maybe raise it to 21 to 25 under the condition that the electoral college gets abolished nationwide).
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I thought you would have hat at least 68 left beliefs.
Some leftist beliefs are stupid.

There are different leftist ideologies and groups.

There are those who believe that they must oppose whatever right wing groups support.

Its a herd mentality in some.

However, herd mentality has a weakness, because sometimes the other herd has some good ideas and good uses too.
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I like the idea of the electoral college getting abolished nationwide.
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That's because it helps the party you want to win elections.

If you are going to advocate that position, you got to make it harder for your party to win as well.

The GOP isn't stupid enough to agree with getting rid of the electoral college because they know their party will have a harder time winning in that scenario.

You got to give something to get something, otherwise the GOP won't agree to it.

Maybe raise the voting age to 21 in exchange for abolishing the electoral college.  Let the GOP make a counter offer.