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Don't be a Logic Zombie!!!
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logic is subjective anyways. its useful, but only indesputable if the being is all knowing.
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@Melcharaz
Logic is not subjective; people are subjective.
a==b
a==c
therefore
b==c
that's not subjective. You might deny it, but you would be wrong.
BTW, an "all-knowing" being is a human construct and could not exist.
God exists, he is all knowing. dont bother arguing otherwise with me.
logic is subjective because man uses it, ergo its dependent on the user's knowledge and lack thereof.
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@3RU7AL
For example, you can't just blindly follow logic into idiotic beliefs like determinism and solipsism. These are obviously intellectual black holes with no utilitarian value whatsoever.
In a utilitarian sense they do away with ideological and moral dogmatism.
A logic zombie is just a person who can't face reality and who won't be honest with themselves.A logic zombie is someone who never takes personal responsibility for their actions and instead blames logic for their moronic and misguided attacks on well established and incontrovertible truth.You can't depend on logic for everything. People know deep down what is right and what is wrong. You know the truth. You just need the courage to face the facts.
It sounds like a you problem.
@Malcharaz.
Logic is.
GOD might not be.
And obsession is not just a fragrance by Calvin Klein.
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@zedvictor4
Logic is.
Pathway of common sense and critical thinking.
GOD might not be.
We observe/experience { physical reality as observerd time } a finite, occupied space Universe { one verse @ } that, is narrated by the sometimes existent, human access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego.....space... * i *....space.....
There exists, macro-patterns of stringy filaments of occupied space,
....large voids, that, are seemingly, occupied voids of lesser mass, and,
along with the above set, we have clusters of inter-releated clusters of galaxies.
There exist medio-patterns of spherical planets, spheical and spiral solar systems and varity shaped and sized chunks of debri.
There exists micro-patterns of sine-wave /\/\/, fuzzy spherical clouds of electrons as an elemental atom, peanut shaped quarks, and,
my speculation of ulra-micro { ergo invisible and non-quantised } positive shaped geodesic Gravity ( ), and negative shaped geodesics of Dark Energy )(.
..............space(> * <) i (> * <)space........bilateral * * access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and egp
.............space(> /\/\/ )( /\/\/ <)space........the sine-wave asscoiated with our medio-existent, physical reality, that, exists inside the toroid, 3D tube of occupied space
..............space(> * <)(> * <)space........ultra-micro ergo non-quantised, outer set of Gravity ( ) and inner set of Dark Energy )(
>in< = the invaginations from outer geodesic Gravity and inner geodesic Dark Energy
The brain only sends one signal to the muscles --hexagonal myosin filaments see note/LINK--- and that is to contract inward. When the signal stops, the muscles expand back to their at-rest-phase-of-existence
note/LINK:...." the ultrastructural study of cross sections of normal skeletal muscle cells showed the existence of irregular patterns of actin filaments in connection with the hexagonal pattern of the myosin filaments."...
The 2D lattice of my 3D quantum space-time tori, clearly shows overlapping, nucleated, hexagonal patterns;
0.....1......5p.....6.....4.....2p...nucleus 3p and nucleus is always our sine-wave associated physical reality
3p...5p.....7p.....9....8....4.....nucleus 6 ergo physical reality nucleus, that, alternates between peaks of the sine-wave ^v^v^v aka /\/\/\/
9....11p...13p...12...10..8...nucleus 12
......1................5p......7p..................11p.........13p.........................17p......outer
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.0...........................6.................................12..............................................inside
...............3p...........................9........................................15......................inside
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..........2p......4.....................8......10...........................14.........16....................inner
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@ebuc
We possess the ability to observe and internally reinterpret what we assume to observe.
Internally creating a simulation of what we confidently assume that we observe externally.
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@zedvictor4
We possess the ability to observe
Five senses directly, and indirectly, via instrumentation we observe that which cannot be visual with the human naked eye ex galaxies too faint to be seen with human naked eye.
Yet vipers see infra-red all mass of Universe expeiriences { feesls/responds } Gravity everywhere and everywhen.
and internally reinterpret what we assume to observe.
Yes and each human brain unique { wired differrently } yet share so many commonalities, that, a percentage of human come to the same conclusions/interpretations of what they observe aka the scientific method, that, is based in logic, common sense and critical thinking pathways of thought.
Internally creating a simulation of what we confidently assume that we observe externally.
Simulation = pathways-of-thought { nervous system }, that, via scientific method, humans arrive and a common set of share relative and absolute truths about our selves and our environment, that, together, define the finite, occupied space Universe.
ultra-macro ---not likely to be quantised----
macro-irrelevant --for the most part of everyday consideration, tho quantise-able---
lucidly relevant --tangental to whatever degree,---
relevant ---here and now---- >* i *<
lucidly relevant ---tangental to whatever degree
micro-irrelevant --for the most part of everyday consideration, tho quantise-able---
ultra-micro ---not likely to be quantised to ever---
Logic isn't bad, and using it in every case doesn't have to be either. Logic is a tool, a weapon if you will. A weapon like any other, that can be powerful when used well, and dangerous when misused. Really, the issue is that if we aren't wary of misleading logic, we may draw dangerous conclusions. Let's take a look at solipsism as an example. Solipsism misuses logic. It is said that it cannot be debunked as there is no way to know that anyone else has thoughts or consciousness like you. Despite this, with careful logic, we can tear this down. Firstly, there is no reason solipsism should be true, so whether it can be refuted or not, there is no reason to assume that you are the only thinking being. Moreover, if we make sure that we define what consciousness is before we make claims about it, it becomes quite clear that solipsism is false. (Under most reasonable and meaningful definitions.) One such definition is the one I proposed here, where the fact that others are also sentient beings follows from the fact that the vast majority of human brains are structured in the same way, thus implying that if you have consciousness, then so should everyone else. As you can see, logic, when used properly, is a powerful tool for uncovering the truth, and there is no harm in using logic as a primary tool in life.